WEBVTT 4/19/2021 1 00:00:08.580 --> 00:00:21.000 School Board: Work session of the most humble school districts and you're starting a few minutes later than anticipated to our executive session having run them longer. 2 00:00:22.470 --> 00:00:28.560 School Board: To take care of some business there, but with that we will begin this work session Kelly, would you please call. 3 00:00:29.100 --> 00:00:31.020 Kelly Douglas: Certainly regen military. 4 00:00:32.910 --> 00:00:33.690 Kelly Douglas: Chelsea king. 5 00:00:35.370 --> 00:00:36.360 Kelly Douglas: Golan Heights. 6 00:00:36.810 --> 00:00:38.340 Kelly Douglas: Here ginger. 7 00:00:40.590 --> 00:00:41.550 Kelly Douglas: christy Thompson. 8 00:00:42.240 --> 00:00:43.770 Kelly Douglas: yeah Thank you. 9 00:00:46.440 --> 00:00:47.070 School Board: and 10 00:00:48.780 --> 00:00:49.380 School Board: We. 11 00:00:52.050 --> 00:01:00.780 School Board: Are communications from members of our community to the board as their public comment and we received. 12 00:01:02.160 --> 00:01:07.500 School Board: Five total public comments and. 13 00:01:08.730 --> 00:01:13.830 School Board: The there were 1234 of them that had to do with. 14 00:01:15.750 --> 00:01:27.750 School Board: Asking for in person full time education for five days a week, of all students attending school in this communications at King from a kellen Moore. 15 00:01:28.980 --> 00:01:38.160 School Board: Catherine hurry co Lisa hedberg and rhonda guns or Gomez. 16 00:01:39.180 --> 00:01:43.410 School Board: And then we have one and public comment. 17 00:01:44.520 --> 00:01:56.940 School Board: To the Board which we're resolving kind of work that has to do with lights Internet to kill airborne open and to make money for school utilize that as a contractor. 18 00:01:57.630 --> 00:02:03.210 School Board: And then we would just also add that we did have a couple of additional comments they went public. 19 00:02:04.080 --> 00:02:15.990 School Board: I don't think, but I just would like to mention them in case they were intended that way, and they just had to do with some questions and wondering about whether or not cbl would be offered next year. 20 00:02:17.190 --> 00:02:19.440 Saying that they would appreciate that option. 21 00:02:20.970 --> 00:02:26.430 School Board: And that will conclude the public comment portion of our meeting. 22 00:02:27.450 --> 00:02:39.720 School Board: On to our first item of business, which was our original anticipated a topic of discussion and it was a follow up on our first bonding. 23 00:02:41.580 --> 00:02:55.980 School Board: kind of learning, as well as a plane and desire a question of the board, whether or not you'd be interested in the first box based on our last board meeting, where we did some learning on the topic and that. 24 00:02:56.040 --> 00:02:57.060 School Board: I lost weight kind of. 25 00:02:58.530 --> 00:03:18.600 School Board: revisiting this meeting and one was a request by the board just received an independent advice of a consultant on this manner so big doesn't our financial stake in the outcome, and we do have a guest with us today from SDA who will help help you enter the work towards. 26 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:23.370 School Board: The second question had to do with and. 27 00:03:25.590 --> 00:03:32.760 School Board: Then, also, I think the consultant can help us with that it was the question around to what percentage of our current liabilities would be. 28 00:03:33.540 --> 00:03:41.310 School Board: 100% 50% some portion thereof, so we can hopefully discuss some advice on that today, and then the third. 29 00:03:42.210 --> 00:03:59.040 School Board: thing was we had a resolution before is that ultimately we are asked not to not to have to approve it, because there were some changes, and that has to do with projections on the interest earnings and potentially changing and it's on models that. 30 00:04:00.150 --> 00:04:06.210 School Board: Fo Northwest and provided the models are based on like the 2.5% interest. 31 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:21.690 School Board: rate at the time we got them on a 3.5 and 4.5 so and I will mention that this because I never revisit actual Christina and I just to catch the full work on and on. 32 00:04:24.810 --> 00:04:35.040 School Board: The seven figure April 7 along with Dr Ben big indicator to us and met with Carol symbols again to kind of get some clarity on those changing. 33 00:04:35.730 --> 00:04:55.890 School Board: percentages and based on interest rates and we learned essentially that new legislation had recently been passed That said, it requires the statistical analysis be done on borrowing rates before the board as a whole can make a decision to approve, first of all. 34 00:04:57.810 --> 00:05:17.520 School Board: which we did this analysis, you may recall, not so 2.5% for 2.5% 4.5% chart and that those the statistical numbers that that generated those are based on their projections, as we knew it in January of 2020. 35 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:25.770 School Board: So the question was that, but what has changed like what what's the value of that, why do we have to revisit it. 36 00:05:27.270 --> 00:05:41.250 School Board: So, two things have happened since January, and the first is that we're really close to gym and the new projections come out, so I was wondering, do you wait for June to get any projections for what can you do and. 37 00:05:43.590 --> 00:05:58.770 School Board: The second was that in just a couple days after our last meeting on this, the person board health is a meeting of its own board and during that meeting they invited some guests and to speak to them about. 38 00:06:01.110 --> 00:06:11.520 School Board: Interest rates and projections going forward and one of the entities that came and spoke to them was milliman and Norman is actually. 39 00:06:12.060 --> 00:06:27.600 School Board: And so they gave a presentation to the board and and during their presentation, they can share it and when those tables are distressed like there was that there was a 7.2%. 40 00:06:28.470 --> 00:06:38.730 School Board: projected like rate of return on invested money in your first box will remember men and essentially said, we think that that projection. 41 00:06:39.750 --> 00:06:59.070 School Board: We don't actually think over the next 20 years you're going to be able to average 7.2% we think based on where your tables and everything that you're going to be closer to 6.13%, which is a reduction of a little over 1%. 42 00:07:00.420 --> 00:07:08.880 School Board: Because we were still looking at the 2.5 2.5 4.5 as an entry point of potential interest you're still a difference there that. 43 00:07:09.840 --> 00:07:18.240 School Board: makes it something we still want to learn so that's kind of web has changed a little bit in since we started our discussions. 44 00:07:18.660 --> 00:07:29.940 School Board: So, from this point, then, are there two options let's run the statistical analysis again but let's add that one percentage point what we can do is say Okay, what if we entered into the market at. 45 00:07:32.310 --> 00:07:41.130 School Board: We did 5% interest rate so so that way, we can see it's the equivalent of numeric projecting on 7% taking it down to 6%. 46 00:07:41.610 --> 00:07:55.950 School Board: So we can do that, or we can just wait till June, and until the person or even milliman had advised them that we think it's going to be closer to 6% the person doesn't necessarily need some. 47 00:07:57.030 --> 00:08:15.120 School Board: So they can choose to think of their projections going forward could be maybe somewhere in the difference there was this indication that it was going to be less than 7.2% but what they ultimately with salon that he realized from their investments. 48 00:08:16.650 --> 00:08:23.100 School Board: doesn't necessarily have to land on the 6.1 so we can wait to June see what they like. 49 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:33.030 School Board: However, waiting until June industry surveys are increasing, so we could end up pricing ourselves out of a probiotic for. 50 00:08:33.450 --> 00:08:43.590 School Board: Five weeks so ultimately at the conclusion of that meeting, we said let's go ahead and let's just remind them analysis and add that 5.5% column to it. 51 00:08:44.160 --> 00:08:54.270 School Board: And that's being done right now, and this week those numbers, should we just weren't able to get them in time for this meeting. 52 00:08:55.200 --> 00:09:09.870 School Board: So I just wanted to share that that additional learning that happens with every month, we now have the same information and keep company who's running those ads that statistical information is that. 53 00:09:11.790 --> 00:09:18.060 School Board: Northwest that didn't original one that we've seen based on the January calculations so. 54 00:09:19.830 --> 00:09:20.370 School Board: yeah and. 55 00:09:21.780 --> 00:09:22.320 School Board: Second. 56 00:09:24.810 --> 00:09:40.950 School Board: floor, yes, it will you have tonight, yes, it can happen that report is going to formally be out, but what you have tonight is a preview So you can see that that bar 5.5. 57 00:09:41.820 --> 00:09:52.020 School Board: So they cannot claim that we saw the official report why you don't want to deliver solutions tonight because, as a board to public would be saying never saw the official. 58 00:09:52.530 --> 00:10:11.280 School Board: rerunning the report ECHO Northwest you're seeing some preview of what would be in that report to further inform your conversation tonight, but it just in due diligence, you probably want to wait till you see that action report just because I think i'm happy to preview the report. 59 00:10:12.990 --> 00:10:24.240 School Board: I also just want to let you know that you see, we received an email from Mr over who's yes, and he has no obligation tonight sparing limited on time. 60 00:10:25.650 --> 00:10:34.230 School Board: And may still be with us, or may have left over Okay, so we want to really aren't there are questions to this over so then let's let's go there and that next. 61 00:10:35.550 --> 00:10:38.040 But yeah let's start over. 62 00:10:40.320 --> 00:10:49.530 School Board: The conversation so w's if you can then produce us to Mr over in order to keep the questions coming. 63 00:10:50.760 --> 00:10:51.750 School Board: This independent. 64 00:10:54.630 --> 00:10:55.830 Son Le Hughes: yeah so. 65 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:05.760 Son Le Hughes: I received the update from the economic West and put together a PowerPoint but sin David oprah to another. 66 00:11:06.300 --> 00:11:15.390 Son Le Hughes: commitment that you need to leave anytime here, I would like you to have the opportunity to talk with him pulse David operate it a director. 67 00:11:16.050 --> 00:11:29.610 Son Le Hughes: advisory service for the SDA or llc he here with us tonight, so I will say that high for more to how about direct conversation with him amen I will follow up with a PowerPoint. 68 00:11:33.750 --> 00:11:38.040 David Ulbricht: Yes, good evening i'm sorry about the shortness of time that I have i'm. 69 00:11:39.060 --> 00:11:48.600 David Ulbricht: Actually, out of state visiting my daughters so just for a couple days, so we have dinner plans that i'm need to get to but anyway. 70 00:11:50.190 --> 00:11:52.590 David Ulbricht: Thank you for the opportunity to be here tonight as. 71 00:11:54.090 --> 00:12:06.240 David Ulbricht: I am the director of advisory services at SDA yell Just to give you a quick background on myself and I used to be an investment banker for 20 plus years doing. 72 00:12:06.630 --> 00:12:16.620 David Ulbricht: public finance work, working with local governments up and down the west coast, the last five years, six years i've been at sdo heading up there, municipal advisory services. 73 00:12:17.520 --> 00:12:25.530 David Ulbricht: Though we advise local governments special districts on when it comes to their definitions and so with that we are registered. 74 00:12:25.890 --> 00:12:40.980 David Ulbricht: With the Securities and Exchange Commission and the municipal securities rulemaking board and with that comes the responsibility of I have a fiduciary duty to the district to act in your best interest when it comes to you folks issuing bonds. 75 00:12:42.780 --> 00:12:49.920 David Ulbricht: So with that I think if you have any questions about what you're about to embark on i'm more than happy to address. 76 00:12:52.170 --> 00:12:55.170 School Board: Even think in general, it would be beneficial just. 77 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:03.510 School Board: We know that there is risk, you know but there's also benefit with undertaking. 78 00:13:04.170 --> 00:13:17.520 School Board: bonds and so just some general information on your risk and and and benefit and and why this might be something we would want to pursue but also highlighting. 79 00:13:18.030 --> 00:13:30.180 School Board: Those risks that we need to consider in pursuing a box with the Gospel and then I think we also as a board I could use some guidance on if we were to pursue the bond. 80 00:13:31.980 --> 00:13:42.270 School Board: What interest rates would that still be advisable, and then also, what are the pros and cons of the. 81 00:13:44.430 --> 00:13:52.800 School Board: The amount of the box, you know, would you recommend our full hers unfunded liability, or some portion there. 82 00:13:54.570 --> 00:13:56.880 School Board: Are kind of our main ones to get us started. 83 00:13:57.600 --> 00:14:00.060 School Board: Okay, a lot of nodding heads up. 84 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:08.580 David Ulbricht: Okay, so you know, certainly you you folks have been informed and presented with the appropriate information. 85 00:14:09.870 --> 00:14:19.740 David Ulbricht: You know, because what this is is basically you have it's it's it's an arbitrage play, and if you know what arbitrage is is basically. 86 00:14:20.040 --> 00:14:31.020 David Ulbricht: You borrow at a lower rate in those you invest the money at a higher rate and that differences arbitrage well in this particular case, what you have is that that there's an opportunity with the rain environment that we have. 87 00:14:32.880 --> 00:14:40.650 David Ulbricht: And we know that would be certain when you sell the barn but don't certainly part of it is you know where Where are those future investment earnings going to be. 88 00:14:42.120 --> 00:14:56.160 David Ulbricht: So it's pretty obvious you know if you look at, I know, ECHO Northwest has done the reports and you know they they've gone through like 20,000 different iterations looking at the outcome if you know, certainly the probability. 89 00:14:57.420 --> 00:14:59.370 David Ulbricht: of having a successful result. 90 00:15:00.900 --> 00:15:05.160 David Ulbricht: is greater when you're borrowing cost is lower. 91 00:15:06.270 --> 00:15:23.910 David Ulbricht: So if you run into a higher borrowing costs and then keeping that assumed rate of return at say 6.1 6.2 verses 7.2, then the economics essentially start going away. 92 00:15:25.110 --> 00:15:31.590 David Ulbricht: Because you don't there's not that big difference between your borrowing costs and what they assume rate of return is. 93 00:15:33.180 --> 00:15:35.730 David Ulbricht: seems like a pretty simple you know. 94 00:15:38.130 --> 00:15:43.650 David Ulbricht: analysis but don't wanna known certainly is that mark and return. 95 00:15:45.180 --> 00:15:50.310 David Ulbricht: So, if you look at some of the data that was presented by ECHO Northwest. 96 00:15:51.690 --> 00:15:58.350 David Ulbricht: The probability of you know, achieving a present value better benefit greater than zero. 97 00:15:59.640 --> 00:16:06.420 David Ulbricht: Even at four and a half percent thc that your interest costs, you have an 80% probability. 98 00:16:07.470 --> 00:16:14.850 David Ulbricht: That your present value is going to exceed greater than zero and the whole idea and concept, basically, is to. 99 00:16:16.410 --> 00:16:18.510 David Ulbricht: limit or. 100 00:16:19.740 --> 00:16:21.450 David Ulbricht: reduce the impact. 101 00:16:22.830 --> 00:16:26.970 David Ulbricht: On the district's revenues when you have to worry about this unfunded liability. 102 00:16:27.570 --> 00:16:47.820 David Ulbricht: So this is what this is one way to do it, I saw the analysis that was done with the three and a half percent thc and assuming greater return of 7.2 you have some considerable savings to the tune of 50 plus million dollars and on a present value basis that's $35 million dollars. 103 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:59.670 David Ulbricht: So if you drop that assumed rate, you know those numbers are going to change if you kept it at 3.5 but still there's a certain amount of you know, a significant benefit. 104 00:17:01.290 --> 00:17:02.760 David Ulbricht: To do something like this. 105 00:17:03.870 --> 00:17:09.180 David Ulbricht: And, but we just don't know because that's uncertainty of the market. 106 00:17:10.290 --> 00:17:24.180 David Ulbricht: and, believe me, if everyone that you've talked to that's in this business if they knew which direction that markets going and they wrote those it, they would probably be very, very wealthy if everyone to which way the market was going to go but that's the big unknown. 107 00:17:25.500 --> 00:17:35.130 David Ulbricht: But with the probability, you know there's a there's a you know 80% chance you're going to be successful, and if you get you know get there, you know. 108 00:17:36.600 --> 00:17:49.740 David Ulbricht: That kind of probability and yeah it could be worth the risk now when you get down begin with the teeth to riches cost of going higher than the probability go becomes less. 109 00:17:51.120 --> 00:17:51.840 School Board: than TV. 110 00:17:53.610 --> 00:17:57.600 School Board: What interest rate works burning issue. 111 00:18:00.150 --> 00:18:02.190 School Board: With you recommend we not. 112 00:18:03.930 --> 00:18:04.470 See. 113 00:18:07.170 --> 00:18:11.670 David Ulbricht: Well, I I guess my recommendation would be. 114 00:18:13.500 --> 00:18:20.160 David Ulbricht: Well i'd have to look at if ECHO Northwest is doing some revisions in the analysis. 115 00:18:21.360 --> 00:18:30.360 David Ulbricht: Then i'd like to see what that result might be at the tip of 5.5% I would be comfortable with the tip of 4.5%. 116 00:18:31.650 --> 00:18:35.130 David Ulbricht: But when you start getting that 5.5%. 117 00:18:36.600 --> 00:18:40.680 David Ulbricht: You know I think what the current estimate notice 3%. 118 00:18:42.390 --> 00:18:44.010 School Board: Yes, currently yeah. 119 00:18:45.780 --> 00:18:49.230 School Board: 5% with 67.1%. 120 00:18:54.210 --> 00:18:57.990 David Ulbricht: Well it's not necessarily a 61% risk it's. 121 00:18:58.290 --> 00:19:03.120 David Ulbricht: 50% probability that the result is going to be greater than zero. 122 00:19:10.590 --> 00:19:11.610 David Ulbricht: yeah I can see the screen. 123 00:19:18.210 --> 00:19:27.840 David Ulbricht: So let me kind of go back to another part of your question, in that you know how much do we borrow. 124 00:19:31.980 --> 00:19:39.510 David Ulbricht: I think if you say continue to proceed and rates are going up significantly. 125 00:19:41.820 --> 00:19:54.300 David Ulbricht: I think you would be better off on reaching a lower amount than a follower amount, you know higher amount only because that probability of being greater than zero lessons. 126 00:19:55.530 --> 00:20:03.150 David Ulbricht: So you know if you had a ti si at two and a half percent I would probably say borrow for the full amount. 127 00:20:04.410 --> 00:20:09.270 David Ulbricht: If you're at the thc level 4.5% you know you could. 128 00:20:11.520 --> 00:20:31.830 David Ulbricht: be fine with the format, but you might want to go like 75% again, you know you're relying on you know, an assumed rate of return on that money now you get to a ti see a 5% I would not be borrowing, as much for that, because that probabilities you know, certainly shrinks down. 129 00:20:33.750 --> 00:20:41.160 David Ulbricht: But you want to make you know you're looking at this, you know what and you're getting all kinds of information and all kinds of data. 130 00:20:42.360 --> 00:20:46.620 David Ulbricht: You know if if you understand the risks that are involved involved. 131 00:20:48.780 --> 00:20:54.900 David Ulbricht: And when you eliminate some of the risk in aware of it by say a lower T ic. 132 00:20:55.920 --> 00:21:02.460 David Ulbricht: Then you could probably barn for more of the unfunded liability is what i'm saying. 133 00:21:03.930 --> 00:21:21.540 David Ulbricht: So i'm comfortable you know say around that 75% to 100% range if the gic is below at four and a half or below, but if you're thinking of might be higher, you may want to consider approach that you're not going to borrow full the full unfunded liability. 134 00:21:24.810 --> 00:21:25.920 School Board: we've got a question. 135 00:21:27.030 --> 00:21:39.750 School Board: This was addressed and I spaced out or maybe being said more clearly about just the the risk so assuming that the market does something that's not, what are we carry. 136 00:21:41.970 --> 00:21:44.130 David Ulbricht: Well, the biggest risk that you have. 137 00:21:45.870 --> 00:21:49.380 David Ulbricht: Is that you still going to be obligated to pay the debt. 138 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:55.530 David Ulbricht: If the result is you know if you have a negative result on the site account. 139 00:21:57.630 --> 00:22:05.700 David Ulbricht: So that's always the risk, because if you if you're borrowing costs are higher than what your assumed investment earnings are. 140 00:22:07.410 --> 00:22:13.170 David Ulbricht: Then that gap still continues to get bigger and you're still obligated for that plus you would be obligated. 141 00:22:14.220 --> 00:22:15.630 David Ulbricht: For the data you borrowed. 142 00:22:30.660 --> 00:22:31.050 All right. 143 00:22:33.030 --> 00:22:34.260 School Board: What else do we need to know. 144 00:22:37.020 --> 00:22:41.550 David Ulbricht: What else do you need to know well let's see if it's sunny. 145 00:22:43.980 --> 00:22:47.190 School Board: we're all novices see that we've done a lot of learning. 146 00:22:50.250 --> 00:22:55.320 School Board: Our willingness to be risk adverse in our private life is a little bit different than. 147 00:22:56.370 --> 00:22:56.970 School Board: Dealing with. 148 00:22:58.590 --> 00:22:58.770 School Board: The. 149 00:22:58.800 --> 00:22:59.130 way. 150 00:23:01.830 --> 00:23:17.100 David Ulbricht: it's it's you're exactly right, I mean this is something you know it all looks good on paper, but then you know you hear the you know what's the you know the reward is great, but the risk would be you know just as great, on the other side if it doesn't succeed. 151 00:23:18.900 --> 00:23:29.670 David Ulbricht: But so, then you look at the probabilities on you know what their success rate might be, and you can you know kind of eliminate some of that risk so it's. 152 00:23:30.840 --> 00:23:38.340 David Ulbricht: I guess what I will leave you with is the resolution that you would consider a adopting. 153 00:23:39.360 --> 00:23:41.730 David Ulbricht: According to what I understand the schedule, maybe. 154 00:23:43.230 --> 00:23:46.050 David Ulbricht: Is it's essentially the parameters resolution to proceed. 155 00:23:47.220 --> 00:23:48.660 David Ulbricht: But doesn't obligate you. 156 00:23:50.010 --> 00:24:00.990 David Ulbricht: And it also there's still time for the district if it's so chooses if the it, you know market just goes completely wacko. 157 00:24:02.460 --> 00:24:06.450 David Ulbricht: you're still an opt out, you know timeframe built into the schedule. 158 00:24:08.400 --> 00:24:19.860 David Ulbricht: So, and you do have to provide that assessment because that's no that's according to the new law that was put in place, and you make that assessment available. 159 00:24:21.450 --> 00:24:22.320 David Ulbricht: to the public. 160 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:24.780 David Ulbricht: And then. 161 00:24:26.460 --> 00:24:27.990 David Ulbricht: But there's still time. 162 00:24:29.850 --> 00:24:31.470 David Ulbricht: And the ability to opt out. 163 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:36.030 David Ulbricht: And I suddenly I think what is, I think. 164 00:24:37.170 --> 00:24:38.880 David Ulbricht: Around the first of June, I think. 165 00:24:39.930 --> 00:24:45.120 David Ulbricht: Because that that date or something like that I can't recall what it is, but it's around there. 166 00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:47.580 David Ulbricht: But I think. 167 00:24:49.380 --> 00:24:49.890 I think. 168 00:24:53.070 --> 00:24:56.760 Son Le Hughes: you mean to up data back to to go with option to. 169 00:24:58.950 --> 00:25:02.070 Son Le Hughes: so busy that this is a timeline that I have. 170 00:25:05.940 --> 00:25:08.010 David Ulbricht: Okay, so it's. 171 00:25:10.230 --> 00:25:13.350 Son Le Hughes: The same for the dictated to to go with option one. 172 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:26.640 School Board: In July, July six my goal for this particular board, though, is to make that decision before June June 30 I just feel like we've done the bulk of the work, it would be. 173 00:25:28.530 --> 00:25:39.030 School Board: It just really to set up a new board with making this so we're imposing the deadline of June 30 our thoughts. 174 00:25:40.140 --> 00:25:45.840 David Ulbricht: Okay yeah Okay, because I think it is i'm looking at the schedule, I saw today. 175 00:25:47.010 --> 00:25:49.500 David Ulbricht: I don't opt in do July six. 176 00:25:51.630 --> 00:25:56.940 David Ulbricht: But still, you still you know, and then, when I want one last thing I have a comment on, I do like to make. 177 00:25:58.290 --> 00:26:02.280 David Ulbricht: I think it is is prudent and it is reasonable. 178 00:26:03.450 --> 00:26:08.160 David Ulbricht: To see the next updated valuation done by ECHO Northwest. 179 00:26:09.450 --> 00:26:16.260 David Ulbricht: I do, I think that's just a prudent and reasonable thing as a board to look at and consider. 180 00:26:19.290 --> 00:26:20.850 David Ulbricht: Because i'd like to see it as well. 181 00:26:22.170 --> 00:26:29.640 David Ulbricht: But anyway, it's it's still there's, in my opinion there's not a rush at this moment. 182 00:26:30.690 --> 00:26:39.660 David Ulbricht: You know I think may 21 is kind of a deadline to adopt what they're looking for is a timeline to adopt the resolution. 183 00:26:41.460 --> 00:26:47.580 David Ulbricht: You know, and again that's a parameter resolution authorizing to proceed you're still not obligated to do anything. 184 00:26:49.260 --> 00:26:51.750 David Ulbricht: And then the final opt in would be July six. 185 00:26:53.010 --> 00:26:54.120 David Ulbricht: So there's still time. 186 00:26:55.230 --> 00:27:00.300 David Ulbricht: And by then you'll also know what the new assume rate of return is going to be. 187 00:27:01.590 --> 00:27:03.030 David Ulbricht: From a purse. 188 00:27:05.280 --> 00:27:10.980 School Board: yeah So can I ask a clarifying question this is christy Thompson and I sat in with. 189 00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.810 School Board: chairman for a meeting with Carol, and so I just want to make sure i'm understanding your recommendation. 190 00:27:19.350 --> 00:27:26.940 School Board: as well, what we have in front of us is what I found our last their proposal that shows the 5.5. 191 00:27:27.540 --> 00:27:35.670 School Board: But Carol did make that comment, she said okay you've kind of got two choices, you can either go ahead and use this as your. 192 00:27:36.510 --> 00:27:44.280 School Board: Recommendation you know kind of your update for you can wait until the new numbers come out in June. 193 00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:59.640 School Board: And whenever Northwest does a new assessment, then, is that what you're recommending is that we wait until those new numbers come out in June, or are you saying we need to wait till we have the final draft of what we have in front of us now. 194 00:28:00.510 --> 00:28:17.640 David Ulbricht: I think what i'm would recommend is the ti si for the resolution is the rate in which you can proceed with the purse bond issuance without having to take further action or going back to the board. 195 00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.560 David Ulbricht: That number could be two and a half percent if you wanted to put it in there. 196 00:28:23.580 --> 00:28:34.620 David Ulbricht: But five and a half percent and just that's that's a number that says we're not going to proceed if the gic is above five and a half percent again that's just a parameter. 197 00:28:35.820 --> 00:28:44.100 David Ulbricht: You could put four and a half percent in there, if you wish, about five and a half, again, is just provides cushion and it's just a parameter. 198 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:55.470 David Ulbricht: What i'm but I what i'm saying is you know I wouldn't be as concerned if you want to do, adopt the resolution, whether tonight or next month. 199 00:28:56.850 --> 00:29:08.490 David Ulbricht: And you put in five and a half percent i'm have no issue with that because, again, the resolution provides the authorization to proceed doesn't mean you have to. 200 00:29:09.000 --> 00:29:22.560 David Ulbricht: You still have time to opt out, but I would wait to make a decision on how much you may want to borrow after you review the new assessment. 201 00:29:23.460 --> 00:29:38.250 David Ulbricht: And if that new assessment does not you know, say, give a good representation or good probability, you may want to consider, do we really want to do this that's what i'm saying. 202 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:58.350 School Board: Just make sure I understand it, that you feel comfortable with us right now coming up with that kind of high number that we're going to go with of the gic establishing that and then, when the new information comes out that's when we can decide how much of our deck we don't know. 203 00:29:59.250 --> 00:30:00.090 Absolutely. 204 00:30:01.980 --> 00:30:05.580 School Board: Can I just ask questions it's my understanding, the resolution. 205 00:30:07.650 --> 00:30:21.750 School Board: We have the debt amount in it so but there so just to simplify some of the Board i'll make sure that everyone has this timeline it came from, if you don't already have enough no. 206 00:30:22.860 --> 00:30:28.080 School Board: flushed out there to Carol looking our conversation gave us a timeline and so. 207 00:30:29.310 --> 00:30:41.010 School Board: Essentially, has like the timeline is by May 21 you need to have approved or resolution, so we have between now between first to prove the resolution we can we can see the full. 208 00:30:41.400 --> 00:30:57.300 School Board: Analysis renew analysis from ECO Northwest and and then in a resolution we do get to set our parameters, so we can take David advice and we'll probably revisit his advice, based on an ECHO fox. 209 00:30:57.780 --> 00:31:14.190 School Board: news report supposed to be finalized this week to help us guide us in setting those parameters, to the extent it's riskier than I would imagine we would follow david's advice and not invest. 210 00:31:15.330 --> 00:31:25.740 School Board: 100% that maybe some smaller portion of that, but we haven't told me 21st to figure that out in June is when the first Board will then set. 211 00:31:26.310 --> 00:31:38.130 School Board: What they believe their rate of return on their investments, would be a nap is that difference between the Norman 6.1 and their prior assumption of 7.2. 212 00:31:38.940 --> 00:31:50.370 School Board: So let's just say strangely night, they would come back at 5% or something something unexpected, we still have until July sex. 213 00:31:51.360 --> 00:32:02.790 School Board: To say we're not going to do this deal so, even if we do signed the resolution what David saying is we're still not obligated we can opt out of July six so. 214 00:32:03.780 --> 00:32:19.170 School Board: But, to the extent that we can come to a consensus with the advice of others on what those parameters in a resolution ours, with every intention, we would follow through provides the market provides for that don't we go faster than. 215 00:32:20.130 --> 00:32:24.600 School Board: That so we asked that exact same thing right because the. 216 00:32:25.620 --> 00:32:44.490 School Board: Interest rates are increasing, as we wait until we're actually going the more expeditious method, because if we waited until June and ran it on the June numbers it pushed everything are closing out like a month month and a half later some schools are doing our later. 217 00:32:45.540 --> 00:32:57.510 School Board: The bulk of our doing that earlier if we asked about when can we just do this ourselves like, but the actual cost of putting this deal together and selling it. 218 00:32:58.050 --> 00:33:15.390 School Board: At that point again he end to it becomes a little bit cost wherein we can do this as a group, and then also pulling all of our funds for investment purposes, it also helps us ensure that are part of that rate of return. 219 00:33:16.620 --> 00:33:29.700 School Board: That is the more school districts that joining the group, the more enticing it is what people want to buy those bonds us have like a resource that you were 6.8 we had so much competition for that, because it was just a large amount. 220 00:33:30.510 --> 00:33:37.560 School Board: So the benefit of joining with others issue get to put all that together for the public is interviewing take a look. 221 00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:41.790 School Board: yeah you might get a better rate because. 222 00:33:43.050 --> 00:33:44.490 School Board: we're on our own. 223 00:33:49.140 --> 00:34:09.240 David Ulbricht: folks I i'm sorry I do need to excuse myself and I apologize, but it sounds like we'll be getting together soon, and I will certainly look forward to the updated report, so thank you for your time and again I apologize I but I need to excuse myself. 224 00:34:11.010 --> 00:34:15.270 School Board: Thank you, David, for your time this evening enjoy enjoy your time with your daughter. 225 00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:17.070 David Ulbricht: Okay, thank you. 226 00:34:18.600 --> 00:34:19.830 School Board: My understanding to. 227 00:34:21.270 --> 00:34:35.070 School Board: director hi this question that that set page to have Dr views memo refers to like they were kind of the two options the slower, the faster, and those are the districts that are going out for the. 228 00:34:35.700 --> 00:34:46.800 School Board: Perfect better decided okay we're going to go ahead, right now, versus waiting for the tune number to come out and then start the resolution process if Am I. 229 00:34:47.250 --> 00:34:50.760 School Board: Correct that they're deciding okay we're going to be the resolution now. 230 00:34:51.150 --> 00:35:06.540 School Board: Even though we have until the July six outright first it opt out versus we're going to wait and start the resolution after those numbers come out in June and then that success and for us that puts us with three board members and not the board that's already kind of want. 231 00:35:07.890 --> 00:35:17.250 School Board: It and the reality is is, we will obtain 100% of the information, like a leader good group would obtain before. 232 00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:30.720 School Board: Where we are out of recourse options, I guess yeah so we're moving as fast as we can, but we want we're not limiting our ability to make a wise decision, and what are we going to know the true interest is. 233 00:35:32.220 --> 00:35:47.040 School Board: At the time of sale, so that is why we will have like a do not exceed so give at the time of sale, the interest rate would exceed that then we would. 234 00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:53.250 School Board: Have in the zone, a couple months away the listener pretty good idea where it's going to be where is that. 235 00:35:54.420 --> 00:36:04.740 School Board: I think that's why they were, and we can verify that's a really good question I think that's why I originally They ran into the point 5% they they take our total had mentioned like. 236 00:36:06.570 --> 00:36:18.840 School Board: I didn't take down my notes, but just in the last month interest rates have increased by we're still below 3.5 we are below my favorite Dr P things hadn't responded point 6% of. 237 00:36:19.350 --> 00:36:27.720 School Board: me and actually had increased by a significant amount of you, if it continued At that rate you're looking at 4.5. 238 00:36:30.300 --> 00:36:36.930 School Board: yeah and I didn't write that down, she said, interest rates have gone up point 6% this this month yeah. 239 00:36:37.590 --> 00:36:51.810 Son Le Hughes: So the current interest borrow rate is 3.5 and, at the time was this have a few weeks ago, but in return SMS to be about two. 240 00:36:52.320 --> 00:37:14.790 Son Le Hughes: And then the interface turn drop by one point, but the input borrow race still around 3.5 so therefore they don't know enough with ECO they don't know whether the input return rate will continue to wrap up North that why they increase to borrow rate up to 1% of all for buy to 5.5. 241 00:37:17.100 --> 00:37:26.070 Son Le Hughes: Okay, the resolution that we have currently we put in 4.5% what the total new a else that. 242 00:37:27.270 --> 00:37:30.690 Son Le Hughes: We have is 109 million. 243 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:38.580 Son Le Hughes: So that is just a maximum one, and because the economic West changes to five points by. 244 00:37:39.750 --> 00:37:51.810 Son Le Hughes: Angela Davis mentioned if we put 5.5 and 109.3 million in our resolution sabanci the maximum that work and go up to. 245 00:37:52.440 --> 00:38:12.060 Son Le Hughes: A bit more than one are now ready to go if the input rate borrow more than 5.5% and we want borrow more than a total ual receive 109 after we after bought fruit, the resolution. 246 00:38:12.660 --> 00:38:22.890 Son Le Hughes: And then we can follow up with either 75% us that we weren't would like to borrow or 50%, then we will tell the. 247 00:38:24.420 --> 00:38:29.850 Son Le Hughes: Oregon pull back information data centers so they can run the number for us. 248 00:38:33.270 --> 00:38:38.520 School Board: yeah and that was another component of this process is that, like whatever so then. 249 00:38:39.390 --> 00:38:55.110 School Board: we'll end up projecting into the future, when our unfunded liability would be based on us the month we choose tomorrow so there's that right, there is a need to make that determination like you were asking earlier and that first. 250 00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.000 School Board: date. 251 00:38:59.220 --> 00:39:09.870 School Board: With by April 20 so that's kind of why work, you need to get pregnant have one more meeting this month to at least determine if we in fact want. 252 00:39:10.470 --> 00:39:25.110 School Board: To pursue this we're not obligated you know so back out but and then, which I think is more or less ever interested and then the to to think that we would need are the the amount of our. 253 00:39:26.580 --> 00:39:29.040 School Board: unfunded liability that we want to borrow up to you. 254 00:39:30.630 --> 00:39:42.540 School Board: Tonight gave us some some information about like if it were 2.5% yeah 100% you know he's comfortable with it up to about 4.5 but after that, then he would recommend. 255 00:39:43.650 --> 00:39:55.980 School Board: Investing as much, and so we can get based on those numbers, we can get his final input not be submitted in writing to us so that we won't let me get the chance to go for the next two months is pretty low. 256 00:39:57.180 --> 00:39:58.860 School Board: Resolution for full funding. 257 00:40:01.590 --> 00:40:03.540 School Board: We we could yes. 258 00:40:06.630 --> 00:40:18.060 School Board: The one thing we need to do, and this is where the training just isn't perfect for us is we do need to actually receive the full report from ECHO marvelous is our due diligence portion of this. 259 00:40:18.390 --> 00:40:34.020 School Board: Yes, we've got projections projections will probably true, but especially in light of the new statutory provisions that requires us to have that statistical analysis before us, we just need to get that before. 260 00:40:35.370 --> 00:40:35.820 I am. 261 00:40:37.020 --> 00:40:39.000 School Board: A quick meeting event to dinner. 262 00:40:40.140 --> 00:40:44.250 Son Le Hughes: Sorry, I do held up their report and a secretary summary for me. 263 00:40:45.510 --> 00:40:54.450 Son Le Hughes: So I will follow up because we make today we met with Piper Sander today at 11 o'clock, so I will forward that information to you, right after the. 264 00:40:57.420 --> 00:40:57.870 School Board: table. 265 00:40:59.730 --> 00:41:02.640 Son Le Hughes: I just send it to you and Kelly this afternoon. 266 00:41:04.650 --> 00:41:05.040 School Board: happy. 267 00:41:06.690 --> 00:41:07.050 Son Le Hughes: must be. 268 00:41:20.430 --> 00:41:22.110 School Board: updated bar bar graph. 269 00:41:25.290 --> 00:41:39.240 School Board: Just to clarify people we've got a baby in there today also here yeah So can I get clarification on this document as to whether or not this is the updated reports. 270 00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:44.040 School Board: This is an email. 271 00:41:44.880 --> 00:41:52.320 Son Le Hughes: Yes, so they send this email to angie peterson she is from the boy is to. 272 00:41:54.660 --> 00:42:04.320 Son Le Hughes: do some basic information right now and i'm walking what the hop can test with it and legal counsel to update a resolution for us, so I can present it to. 273 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.530 School Board: You just just remember, we are. 274 00:42:12.030 --> 00:42:16.830 School Board: Well, you have a recommendation in a resolution that you're updating. 275 00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:26.430 School Board: What my question is is this document that stuff on the screen, is this the final statistical analysis that we've been waiting on. 276 00:42:27.120 --> 00:42:30.000 Son Le Hughes: Make it not call it find out I just say updated. 277 00:42:34.530 --> 00:42:34.920 School Board: again. 278 00:42:36.420 --> 00:42:42.090 School Board: So you anticipate receiving more detailed statistical analysis later this week. 279 00:42:45.300 --> 00:42:54.030 Son Le Hughes: This EDA, how can legal power, so what what the economic West and our region back to them tomorrow and see was it a final. 280 00:42:55.560 --> 00:43:03.180 Son Le Hughes: Report repo when When will the final report coming out, but this is just the update that I would like to share with us today. 281 00:43:04.020 --> 00:43:05.220 School Board: Okay, all right, thank you. 282 00:43:13.980 --> 00:43:14.610 School Board: looking into the. 283 00:43:15.990 --> 00:43:21.270 School Board: Resolution number 2029 from our last board. 284 00:43:23.010 --> 00:43:29.490 School Board: And it has what we're referring to as a T ic. 285 00:43:31.020 --> 00:43:42.720 School Board: As 4.5 in the final whereas on the first page and then it provides when you get to Section three. 286 00:43:44.190 --> 00:43:45.960 School Board: Page for. 287 00:43:47.010 --> 00:44:00.660 School Board: That delegation and it says the school district official may, on behalf of the district, without further action by the board participation in section one participate in preparation of whatever statement needed. 288 00:44:02.310 --> 00:44:04.470 School Board: To establish the final principle. 289 00:44:06.090 --> 00:44:12.870 School Board: And, and so that's the thing not to exceed well i'm still not clear on so. 290 00:44:14.550 --> 00:44:26.040 School Board: we're going to pass a resolution with that tip number as 4.5 or 5.5 whatever we agree on right that's on the first page and then. 291 00:44:27.210 --> 00:44:32.580 School Board: Is it what we're discussing whether, whether under Section three we would say. 292 00:44:37.110 --> 00:44:39.900 School Board: establish the full principle mount. 293 00:44:42.420 --> 00:44:46.260 School Board: Up to 75% of its. 294 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:50.700 School Board: A 4.4 T ic and. 295 00:44:52.620 --> 00:45:03.180 School Board: If it's greater than that here, I see 50% or whatever we decide is that is not what we're talking about this that was going to be an issue. 296 00:45:03.540 --> 00:45:11.460 School Board: Yes, and I think you would ask me that question either off record or during the meeting of can before even stipulating the resolution. 297 00:45:11.850 --> 00:45:18.270 School Board: The amount that we might, and not just leave that delegated to the staff, and I said, if you want that there, yes. 298 00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:38.550 School Board: So we could make the update resolution even more specific with exactly what you're describing if it's a 4.5 the full amount, if you want to go 5.5 with happiness, then you could write that in the resolution, if you want to say everything off the table, if it goes to. 299 00:45:39.810 --> 00:45:40.380 School Board: say something. 300 00:45:42.510 --> 00:45:55.140 School Board: I would prefer I grab our resolution that whereby they consider that provision to provide those parameters and then we would be able to just make a decision based on our statistics. 301 00:45:55.560 --> 00:46:13.890 School Board: What those numbers, you know fill in the blanks ever made 30 we could bring a draft a new draft resolution by then you have the official equal to request report to do your due diligence, you can see a little preview of what it might include and then. 302 00:46:14.940 --> 00:46:16.920 School Board: Perhaps the most that we feel comfortable with. 303 00:46:17.910 --> 00:46:21.840 School Board: And I feel like I heard David or when I wrote down that he said is that. 304 00:46:22.260 --> 00:46:37.020 School Board: At 4.5% and maybe he was just throwing this number out that I heard his recommendation is that the port 4.5% We borrow 75% will get clarification that yeah I would love to get. 305 00:46:38.310 --> 00:46:47.520 School Board: A sense i'm preparing the board what what percent what percent how much we go right yeah, I would like that i'll work here, and he also said he wants to see the actual. 306 00:46:48.180 --> 00:46:58.710 School Board: Report as well, and then we'll get his opinion based on that great anybody else meeting something in particular company or outside of. 307 00:46:59.370 --> 00:47:08.760 School Board: It doesn't seem to me like this should be a lengthy discussion right conversation that we should be able to pretty much pick those numbers put them in and be done with this. 308 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:25.530 School Board: i'm trying to set it up that way so unless somebody else tonight, was the opportunity to hear from someone who doesn't benefit from the sale of the past, so you can also submit further questions that come up with, and we send those to David if. 309 00:47:26.940 --> 00:47:29.100 School Board: You think of others on the way home or during the week. 310 00:47:30.660 --> 00:47:37.650 School Board: And you've done a lot of work on this so who are the board at the most in the right position makes decision, instead of different to. 311 00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.840 School Board: A new board, but if that happens, then we'll work with it, you know, on that and. 312 00:47:43.950 --> 00:47:44.160 If. 313 00:47:46.470 --> 00:47:47.460 School Board: I was gonna say that. 314 00:47:49.290 --> 00:48:02.130 School Board: I think we should be pretty bullish I mean we're looking at 4.5 is still 80% I mean the normal world 80% chance ever return on investment is phenomenal, especially the user that simply. 315 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:14.970 School Board: Start marketing to percent probability of making money is exceptionally high and I just it's hard for musicians narrow, in this case neck too much, where I wouldn't want to put 100% funding. 316 00:48:16.980 --> 00:48:26.160 School Board: For that one yeah i'm not the same thing hey that's a great industry, and we need, we need to invest in, so we can pay this 100. 317 00:48:26.970 --> 00:48:32.010 School Board: Liability and i'm curious to see some maybe some starting points in that spirit of give us a resolution. 318 00:48:32.430 --> 00:48:43.350 School Board: about it, maybe even like poses started kind of numbers, so that you know we're not just making up numbers, what do you think for violent agreement, but you know we just have something that looks good and go for. 319 00:48:46.980 --> 00:49:05.640 School Board: The recommendation that's semi passive alright, so that is the work, then I will work with and Dr Ludwig and talk to us, as well as with David to get his recommendation as part of that and will come with. 320 00:49:07.410 --> 00:49:13.380 School Board: It So then, as well as supplement if David on your person, you know something sharing. 321 00:49:14.100 --> 00:49:26.460 School Board: His advice, based on the statistical masters of sound like a plan yeah, and I concur with director heights and king and, but I would also just because I like having the recommendation of someone who, this is what he does for a living, I. 322 00:49:27.120 --> 00:49:35.730 School Board: mean I don't even know we can you know do it in point five increments like okay if it's 3% hundred like I recommend. 323 00:49:36.210 --> 00:49:56.520 School Board: If it's 3.5% I still recommend 100 if it's 4% I recommend if it's 5% I just for me, I would like to see that, like in point five increments I mean because he probably can't I mean he kind of gave a little bit of that just the more information, we can get from him, so we can make a better. 324 00:49:58.320 --> 00:49:59.400 School Board: decision I. 325 00:50:02.490 --> 00:50:07.770 Son Le Hughes: will follow up with him, through the email and help him write it all down. 326 00:50:08.820 --> 00:50:27.960 Son Le Hughes: Here PM today is a 2.5% and under go 400% and if it be low 5% then don't borrow info and borrow around 75% so but I will put your now and help him write it down and writing for us. 327 00:50:32.970 --> 00:50:33.780 School Board: Now, on. 328 00:50:35.520 --> 00:50:36.300 School Board: Our agenda. 329 00:50:38.370 --> 00:50:45.990 School Board: With an update on changes to the ready we'll see learners guidance and what that means for our lesson. 330 00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:57.030 School Board: I know we're a little maybe a little ahead of schedule, I would start sending you want to take a step further i'm fine going into. 331 00:50:58.590 --> 00:51:01.410 School Board: This because we have a very firm okay yeah. 332 00:51:04.650 --> 00:51:07.350 School Board: And i'm sorry it's my birthday. 333 00:51:13.050 --> 00:51:13.380 School Board: today. 334 00:51:21.570 --> 00:51:24.660 School Board: Yes, you have to get one in there is everybody. 335 00:51:39.270 --> 00:51:40.410 School Board: i'd have to. 336 00:51:43.770 --> 00:51:45.420 School Board: check up just so that. 337 00:51:46.470 --> 00:51:48.750 People can see that i'm referencing. 338 00:51:51.390 --> 00:52:03.090 School Board: Two weeks ago, right before being and describe to you the update from the ready school safe learners document that did make a provision for. 339 00:52:03.870 --> 00:52:20.130 School Board: districts, to move to repeat within the classroom but remaining 60 essentially everywhere else, and what the implications of something like that would be for our district and they're able to show you around. 340 00:52:22.260 --> 00:52:35.730 School Board: The new guidance and then the implications for us and that staff is going to work diligently through that to see if this was feasible for us what I have tonight is a risk and update in the form of response to what we have. 341 00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:38.010 School Board: determined. 342 00:52:39.030 --> 00:52:40.020 For us at this time. 343 00:52:41.400 --> 00:53:03.180 School Board: So I will just open by saying that it will be recommended by me and it is recommended me this evening that are K 12 schools continue in hybrid model for the remainder of the 2020 2021 school year after looking properly and extensively at all the conditions for. 344 00:53:04.560 --> 00:53:18.060 School Board: Again, just for folks at home, does not mean how we're going to start in the fall or intentions, the fall we're planning for a full return of all children on site, every day, I think this is just for the reader is. 345 00:53:20.520 --> 00:53:31.620 School Board: Our priority has always been to bring that person on campus when we get to choose to do so, forget consistently from staff all year. 346 00:53:32.970 --> 00:53:43.020 School Board: Just a reminder that we were one of the first school districts in the portland metro area start co curricular activities in September for needs students on campus as soon as he could. 347 00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.520 School Board: and limited in person instruction as early as October. 348 00:53:48.570 --> 00:53:55.860 School Board: Your weather first districts in the portland metro areas again a hybrid model with all students back in person before spring break. 349 00:53:56.850 --> 00:54:11.910 School Board: So each of these moves we diligently examine all variables and feel confident that could make the changes safely always been a priority to have staff of 10 students on campus as soon as possible and as safe as possible. 350 00:54:13.860 --> 00:54:19.710 School Board: So why are we, the place where we are now recommending that we say the hybrid model they're made a distributor. 351 00:54:21.660 --> 00:54:40.920 School Board: We extensively examine the guidance, which allows for 3pm physical distancing within classrooms but still require 68 physical distances between staff between staff and students in all common spaces between cohorts when eating participate in music fan he. 352 00:54:42.060 --> 00:55:00.210 School Board: Unlike moving from CD of the hybrid the conditions to move the 3D but maintain 16 and commonplaces presented enough barriers store net cost or unsafe conditions that would compromise our assurances to students families and staff of meeting the operational blueprints for safe. 353 00:55:01.770 --> 00:55:11.100 School Board: While some challenges that we looked at or less complex, like adding buses and rearranging bus routes other challenges are more complex, such as. 354 00:55:12.570 --> 00:55:31.590 School Board: K cafeteria devices being cannot be maintained and 16 without significant relocation of students every day and hiring additional part time staff to provide the supervision, such as educators daily setup and cleaning, such as custodial staff to make this happen. 355 00:55:33.270 --> 00:55:39.570 School Board: hiring the number of additional staffing for the change at this time of the school year is what it's not feasible. 356 00:55:41.820 --> 00:55:43.530 School Board: We look at our furniture. 357 00:55:44.760 --> 00:55:56.250 School Board: furniture is not conducive to repeat physical distancing in our schools over the years we've invested in tables and forefoot pair desks for the team learning the value bars. 358 00:55:57.330 --> 00:56:10.800 School Board: While there are some individual desks so in places there are not enough for all schools, we are able to use the branch, and we have currently to accommodate smaller classes with 60 distance but not full classes for 3D. 359 00:56:11.880 --> 00:56:21.000 School Board: Additional branch or would need to be ordered and delivered in time to make the change peaceful again the challenge and tidy up around the school year. 360 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:28.980 School Board: We had over the last two weeks contemplate for cage changing students schedules and reassigning teachers. 361 00:56:29.610 --> 00:56:39.270 School Board: But decided that this was not aligned our commitment to strong student teacher relationships, it was important to us to keep students with their existing teachers extent possible, the school year. 362 00:56:40.110 --> 00:56:50.370 School Board: Strong teachers relationships is one of the highest correlation is too strong student learning outcomes we didn't want to hack learning by reassigning students to be teachers at this point the school year. 363 00:56:51.390 --> 00:56:59.850 School Board: we're also mindful that any change to students schedules order at assignment is for the year could disrupt parents childcare arrangements. 364 00:57:00.390 --> 00:57:11.670 School Board: Which is something prioritize up notification here, we asked parents when they want a or B, we tried to align high school middle school primary students, so that they could be home together. 365 00:57:14.010 --> 00:57:21.660 School Board: Additionally, the CC definition of close contact for contractors and purposes is still define a 16 proximity. 366 00:57:22.710 --> 00:57:41.340 School Board: If we move to three deep that every exposure will result in those cohorts quarantining at home for 10 to 14 days with the case rates at clackamas county currently at the high risk sector level moving everything could be more students witness in person instruction. 367 00:57:42.750 --> 00:57:49.350 School Board: And I can give examples of that way to just last week we had three students who are contracted coven. 368 00:57:50.010 --> 00:58:05.400 School Board: And classrooms that have been exposed, but because they were all at 16 all those students were able to come back to class if they've been three feet in classrooms all of those classes, would have been quarantined for 10 to 14 days. 369 00:58:07.350 --> 00:58:10.830 School Board: And secondary level remember student is in three sections. 370 00:58:12.210 --> 00:58:14.730 School Board: during each day, not just in factory. 371 00:58:17.100 --> 00:58:30.540 School Board: In February the district signed an agreement with both the licensed in class by association, so we have a oca representing our share interests and assurances in maintaining safety and stability for our Community. 372 00:58:31.530 --> 00:58:50.040 School Board: Given the complexities of moving 62 three feet in some spaces, while maintaining 62 other spaces and conditions unique to our district district leaders are less confident that we maintain all safety protocols and our operational blueprint consistently if we make that move. 373 00:58:53.910 --> 00:59:03.660 School Board: And some new information clackamas county case rates continue to be on the rise, there is guidance to the very school sake learners document that advice of school districts. 374 00:59:04.140 --> 00:59:13.830 School Board: to pause any expansion if it's not already in place, when you do expansion by case, free to move and accounting into another tier. 375 00:59:15.270 --> 00:59:30.660 School Board: Policy expansion when metrics move to more restrictive threshold, for example, green to yellow or yellow to red is recommended by Oregon health authority or Department of Education in clackamas county public health and safety or a school safer and stop. 376 00:59:31.770 --> 00:59:48.210 School Board: This week clackamas county reach 212 for 100,000 case for this moves are counting from the Green here now to be out here and we're expected to continue increasing pace rates next week, based on what Ray really projections. 377 00:59:51.510 --> 00:59:59.130 School Board: So, while the recommendation is that we stay in hybrid for the end of the year we do recognize, there are some students. 378 00:59:59.910 --> 01:00:11.880 School Board: who are struggling under current conditions academically for consistent access to school and we want to provide additional learning opportunities for the students, under the current parameters, while we're excited. 379 01:00:13.260 --> 01:00:28.170 School Board: Using the same criteria as limited in person instruction and keeping with current 16 guidelines and safety protocols districts and school staff will extend opportunities for select students who need more than the every other day in person instruction. 380 01:00:30.630 --> 01:00:39.390 School Board: And just to review what is the criteria for limited first instruction is defined by the organic part of education and they provide the following guidance. 381 01:00:40.530 --> 01:00:59.640 School Board: Like the school year and some of the examples include the students need connect issues of connectivity or limited or no Internet access to provide academic support access assessment provide social emotional and mental health support they'll educated a student relationship. 382 01:01:01.290 --> 01:01:08.910 School Board: We need to be careful when we consider select students, that we would invite for additional learning opportunities. 383 01:01:09.660 --> 01:01:22.440 School Board: odd guidance reminds us that the different districts and schools are instructed not to use limited person instruction criteria based solely on disability, race, gender, religion or sexual orientation. 384 01:01:24.990 --> 01:01:34.020 School Board: So, while I notice news, maybe disappointing too many it is where we are after extensive consideration. 385 01:01:35.460 --> 01:01:43.110 School Board: and want to ensure our community that we are also looking at this summer and how we can. 386 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:59.010 School Board: Bring students on campus the state has provided a grant for school districts, so we have additional funding for that and we're in the early stages of planning for summer learning for our students and those opportunities became in May. 387 01:02:01.740 --> 01:02:14.580 School Board: We are encouraged and looking forward to all students returning everyday to campus in the fall and they can plan for that already and encourage families to let us know care plans. 388 01:02:17.610 --> 01:02:18.480 School Board: So that is. 389 01:02:19.560 --> 01:02:28.140 School Board: A memo that I submitted to the board members had a chance to think about that, and they got questions for me and i'm happy to take those. 390 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:33.900 School Board: And just. 391 01:02:35.100 --> 01:02:46.860 School Board: Facilitating this conversation i'm like to try something new and kind of in the past, we asked our whole list of questions upon and maybe you're trying to renew yourself to take questions or comments and then. 392 01:02:48.030 --> 01:02:48.390 School Board: For. 393 01:02:49.650 --> 01:02:50.370 School Board: The competition. 394 01:03:01.980 --> 01:03:03.510 School Board: It like they do have. 395 01:03:06.420 --> 01:03:25.650 School Board: A question on was it was just at this time, school year it's not feasible and it had to do with additional staffing and, in my mind wandering around that is that just because you know, the idea is that those are mostly part time jobs and there's only eight weeks it's hard to find. 396 01:03:27.420 --> 01:03:33.030 School Board: yeah individuals who want to drop it only able to be on the definitely offered for. 397 01:03:33.900 --> 01:03:49.410 School Board: The remainder of the school year, what do you got encounter that's exactly right when you can give a person, a year commitment of employment, because the temporary positions there's more likely that you'll get out patients and people will say yes to something, then. 398 01:03:50.490 --> 01:04:00.720 School Board: This is a guaranteed only nine weeks of employment and be temporary staff, and so they they wouldn't be guaranteed job next year, although certainly to be applied. 399 01:04:01.770 --> 01:04:14.640 School Board: so tiny is really challenging right now we're looking at hiring and when we moved to hybrid we did close If you recall our eight we had health assistance was challenging you can get them in there was some. 400 01:04:16.050 --> 01:04:23.280 School Board: Some of that dropped out and it requires it was still challenging but there was enough, like the timing of the year for people to commit to that. 401 01:04:25.530 --> 01:04:30.600 School Board: But then we hired an additional 18 park Center educators, to support our primary schools. 402 01:04:31.980 --> 01:04:40.800 School Board: To our schools don't have not been able to fill those positions to have our finances and also posted those back in February. 403 01:04:41.880 --> 01:04:48.900 School Board: They open for 24 still have not been able to fill those two positions as your primary school. 404 01:04:50.100 --> 01:05:13.620 School Board: We did post openings to see what kind of response to get the Community in the last two weeks we posted on Tuesday and we had three people why we are looking at reading 17 part time for educators for primary and 12 middle school so we're meeting between nine. 405 01:05:15.150 --> 01:05:25.620 School Board: And, as of today, at three people interested, whether they stay interested and state for the job interview I don't know but there's three. 406 01:05:27.270 --> 01:05:32.130 School Board: And yet they still have openings So those are not those. 407 01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:36.840 School Board: So it's a challenge just defining other. 408 01:05:38.070 --> 01:05:38.850 School Board: When we're looking at. 409 01:05:40.980 --> 01:05:47.820 School Board: That address yeah Christie yeah so just to follow up on that, I think I heard you say that we would need. 410 01:05:48.600 --> 01:05:55.650 School Board: 29 tell parents, educators, that a certain number at primary than a certain number of middle that i'm not hearing high school and so. 411 01:05:56.220 --> 01:06:06.840 School Board: I guess what I would love to hear is the consideration, you may and knowing that high school doesn't have high schoolers do not eat at school correct in that lunch, is one of those factors. 412 01:06:07.440 --> 01:06:14.220 School Board: What consideration was made to Okay, maybe you can't do that primary and can't do in the middle, because of. 413 01:06:15.270 --> 01:06:22.650 School Board: The need for more educators and we're not getting those pottsville but what's the possibility of doing it at. 414 01:06:23.520 --> 01:06:29.160 School Board: That just high school getting our high school students in especially because I heard in the Community. 415 01:06:29.730 --> 01:06:37.620 School Board: You know students will say they're showing up and there's maybe only five people on their hybrid day or less than just that wondering that. 416 01:06:38.190 --> 01:06:50.940 School Board: If we went five full days with those high school students that that might get more kids coming and increase that so I just want I was wondering if you can speak to those considerations and and kind of the thought process there sure. 417 01:06:51.720 --> 01:06:57.810 School Board: So just for folks watching at home and, just to clarify we do theater high school students right. 418 01:06:59.250 --> 01:07:08.010 School Board: yeah so the way that one was for high school is they do their their classes first and then they pick up their meal. 419 01:07:08.670 --> 01:07:13.800 School Board: They can stay on campus to eat, because the buses don't leave until after lunchtime. 420 01:07:14.370 --> 01:07:20.640 School Board: But many high school students are pretty independent they can pick up their lunch and take it home with them if they walk or. 421 01:07:20.970 --> 01:07:31.200 School Board: ride a bike ride with friends or drive themselves, but those who need transportation to stay on campus until their best leads, and they can eat on campus if they prefer or they can take. 422 01:07:32.040 --> 01:07:40.800 School Board: So, just to clarify that we do have lunch in place as far as well, but I knew that already i'm not eating like, but the reason I didn't ask for that. 423 01:07:41.550 --> 01:08:00.420 School Board: Is because there's such variability and many students are taking it off campus to eat we don't have to find all those alternative locations for for additional supervision, like we do the case because those students do stay in the middle of the day, and then resume classes after. 424 01:08:04.500 --> 01:08:12.210 School Board: Considering high school was different for a number of reasons that lunch consideration didn't take that factor out. 425 01:08:13.500 --> 01:08:16.260 School Board: The furniture consideration is still significant. 426 01:08:17.760 --> 01:08:26.760 School Board: Because we shuffled a lot of furniture around to make things work with single desks, we would need to bring back. 427 01:08:27.480 --> 01:08:37.440 School Board: quite a bit from what we get them from high schools and middle schools middle schools back to high school and then different furniture, to the middle schools to make that work, so they would be. 428 01:08:38.100 --> 01:08:52.320 School Board: That factor of the challenge of whatever setup than for our middle schools, not to pack furniture, that means so we've been borrowing and shuffling and abusing and it was our high schools that had most of those individual desks. 429 01:08:53.580 --> 01:08:58.050 School Board: In some places, so we would need to restore back and do that. 430 01:08:59.820 --> 01:09:05.790 School Board: Not impossible, but it does impact our middle schools in the open. 431 01:09:08.400 --> 01:09:10.860 School Board: And then you get another question I forgot what that was. 432 01:09:12.330 --> 01:09:21.180 School Board: So in the cell was only the the furniture was the only thing I mean what was our consideration at some point, that are the staff discuss. 433 01:09:22.230 --> 01:09:32.040 School Board: Okay, given what we know, can we get maybe we just try to get one level in, and so, if it's just a furniture consideration, then. 434 01:09:33.240 --> 01:09:45.120 School Board: You know yeah so library that's one of the factors another one was our high schools, is where we have had, most of our exposure situations, which is why I mentioned that. 435 01:09:45.660 --> 01:09:56.100 School Board: The challenge of the considerations and that we've been able to keep students coming on campus and attending even when they're spending exposures. 436 01:09:57.630 --> 01:10:10.980 School Board: It is our highest group that has the most cases and that it would likely see even further drop in students able to come, because those exposures would immediately move to. 437 01:10:11.670 --> 01:10:19.110 School Board: Automatic form, so that was another consideration of right now we have a set of students who become every other day, my school. 438 01:10:19.860 --> 01:10:31.560 School Board: They are the group that have the highest rate of contracting and exposing to each other, and therefore the highest likelihood of impacting important instructional together. 439 01:10:35.130 --> 01:10:37.440 School Board: So just to extrapolate that just a little. 440 01:10:39.480 --> 01:10:46.260 School Board: Like a way quantity of in person education versus the quality of education that legacy. 441 01:10:48.660 --> 01:10:49.950 School Board: And so i'm. 442 01:10:51.630 --> 01:10:53.580 School Board: A high school level. 443 01:10:55.620 --> 01:10:57.810 School Board: Class size can be you know currently. 444 01:10:58.950 --> 01:10:59.940 School Board: 11 to. 445 01:11:01.470 --> 01:11:04.170 School Board: 16 or 20 students per class. 446 01:11:05.250 --> 01:11:13.260 School Board: or like what I mean fall for or anything at all the students i'm just trying to think like Okay, if you go to three feet, the average high school class could be. 447 01:11:14.850 --> 01:11:30.900 School Board: Like 28 to 3020 to 30 esteem progressive three classrooms during the day, so you have roughly will just take 60 to 90 students that with them example under the three feet apart. 448 01:11:32.970 --> 01:11:33.810 School Board: And we know. 449 01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:43.440 School Board: What we know is that the current procedures can have a place for safety or doing the job because, while students come into our schools. 450 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.070 School Board: With coverage we're not seeing that spreading. 451 01:11:48.540 --> 01:11:52.080 School Board: to people in the classroom and i'm even at three feet. 452 01:11:53.580 --> 01:11:54.930 School Board: They may not spread it. 453 01:11:56.370 --> 01:11:57.300 School Board: But the quarantine. 454 01:11:58.380 --> 01:12:00.210 School Board: department is not done. 455 01:12:01.410 --> 01:12:22.170 School Board: CC CDC quarantine requirement or what's called both contact warranty remains the same thing for the CDC website two meters or 16 is and 15 minutes of prolonged amount of time is still considered both contacts and would lead to porn. 456 01:12:23.730 --> 01:12:35.520 School Board: When case happens in a family for to set their student has open and we find out that they ride the bus what classes are, that is for the the full curricular activity we begin contact racing. 457 01:12:37.080 --> 01:12:37.590 School Board: and 458 01:12:38.850 --> 01:12:42.750 School Board: sample of three cases last week in each of those. 459 01:12:44.370 --> 01:12:46.170 School Board: After we went to contact racing. 460 01:12:47.850 --> 01:12:57.450 School Board: Only expose the only places the students have been word classroom and because 16 is maintain all the students. 461 01:13:00.030 --> 01:13:03.960 School Board: To come back to class and did not miss the person is. 462 01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:06.780 School Board: The new degree. 463 01:13:08.040 --> 01:13:10.050 School Board: Each of those classes, what happened. 464 01:13:14.220 --> 01:13:23.280 School Board: Just by virtue of remove the proximity after three feet and CDC would define that as both contact for exposure and that. 465 01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:43.920 School Board: dinner, and it was just a really looking just very, yes, but the course moments that I received from some parents. 466 01:13:47.760 --> 01:13:54.300 School Board: I was also wanted to make sure that you had consider the use of volunteers to use of being upside seniors only. 467 01:13:57.510 --> 01:14:12.870 School Board: So that we are not allowing visitors and volunteers this school year not since August it's actually a decision making our Community, as it as it might even more risk, and so there have not been any volunteers at. 468 01:14:14.100 --> 01:14:16.860 School Board: least elastic co workers here is. 469 01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:28.650 School Board: What were the other parts that you didn't consider whether you could use outside spaces tense and a senior's only an Emerald those out for the reasons for Kate. 470 01:14:29.430 --> 01:14:44.550 School Board: You know some of our patrons ass certainly the kids intense we had thought about as well, we did impart a number of companies tense are a challenge to get because a lot of restaurants and businesses are using tense or gins. 471 01:14:46.710 --> 01:14:49.740 School Board: We finally did hear back from one company that could. 472 01:14:50.910 --> 01:14:58.080 School Board: Set aside 10 tense, for us, they weren't the side we needed, so we need to reach locations that have one. 473 01:14:59.010 --> 01:15:17.280 School Board: We do need to produce three primary schools and possibly to middle schools, so those tend to be enough for for three primary schools in one school and they approximately would read to us for about $35,000 a month for the 16th. 474 01:15:18.930 --> 01:15:22.980 School Board: The more for that, if we went ahead with the middle school tense. 475 01:15:24.660 --> 01:15:30.750 School Board: So again, that was last week's episode before so it's across. 476 01:15:31.680 --> 01:15:51.600 School Board: The Board is it only costs a lot easier, on top of the additional pair educators and custodial staff that we did you can hire for additional with the 10th there's people to go out setup and clean up and while the CDC has made recommendations about disinfection and not. 477 01:15:53.040 --> 01:16:11.340 School Board: Just the best option for at all of the grade school sailors guide says arena, saying that we do need to have frequent disinfecting have shared services, so you look at additional custodial powers as well with the way the Center much. 478 01:16:16.050 --> 01:16:16.440 School Board: yeah. 479 01:16:17.850 --> 01:16:26.970 School Board: I want to piggyback on chris's question about his calls for training and my concern is that i'm hearing two big reasons for not coming back for. 480 01:16:28.260 --> 01:16:39.180 School Board: Medical School time is that the one is that the pestle kids at the highest rate of it and, secondly, three feet social distancing one kid having it will require a whole lot of kids and. 481 01:16:40.170 --> 01:16:54.510 School Board: My concern is that while we're going to fix all these problems over the summer Those are two things that are not going to change, between now and September and something that use those exact same arguments to the principles closed for how would you respond to that. 482 01:16:57.450 --> 01:17:06.930 School Board: yeah I mean I don't know if the CDC is going to continue to live, some of those restrictions on what i'm hearing is the more that. 483 01:17:09.600 --> 01:17:16.320 School Board: vaccinations become I think right now we've got order of the nation exact same. 484 01:17:17.370 --> 01:17:30.870 School Board: Is extravagant happening in 16 and older can be vaccinated reason that it may be that oh ha or clackamas county the CDC you continue to report those risk factors. 485 01:17:31.920 --> 01:17:33.420 School Board: That could be a possibility. 486 01:17:34.710 --> 01:17:37.500 School Board: And we would we would have to work with that in the fall. 487 01:17:39.600 --> 01:17:44.280 School Board: But indications are that restrictions are for the same time, and all that. 488 01:17:46.410 --> 01:17:47.850 School Board: So that's out. 489 01:17:50.400 --> 01:17:58.230 School Board: To that right, you can see the conservatives pushing myself we're going to happen that basically what we're saying is that the CDC doesn't change. 490 01:17:58.740 --> 01:18:18.060 School Board: And CC and oh ha don't change guidelines, we probably can wrestle the fall yeah I mean right now, because of the race that we're at and we we have these metrics and the guidance of when rates go up you know you take talks and you the likelihood is the race in the Community or high. 491 01:18:19.080 --> 01:18:20.250 School Board: impact the schools. 492 01:18:21.480 --> 01:18:39.120 School Board: What we're hearing is over each month there will be progression around those vaccination rates and we will likely see this fight that we're seeing post spring break and whatever it is, will go down, and then you don't have any high rates in the Community okay like. 493 01:18:41.220 --> 01:18:41.430 This. 494 01:18:42.570 --> 01:18:48.270 School Board: In the making this determination in the district look at coming so students but actually be coming back. 495 01:18:48.660 --> 01:19:03.750 School Board: I know from speaking with you and others in the Community and there's the larger high school students from quite fond of CDs or the hybrid system because too many sports or do part time jobs or just whatever life is always throwing at them right now. 496 01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:20.970 School Board: And i'm wondering if we did open in schools up for five days a week, you might ask the students to choose not to come back and really a package students, we can easily socially, this is the six feet like we're doing now for hybrid was that taking consideration yeah I know. 497 01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:36.780 School Board: What I what we had with our patient population is very few that left the desert, all together, beginning of the school year we only did drop it in a moment, most of that was primary. 498 01:19:37.260 --> 01:19:53.070 School Board: Families cheesy to say private school not starting a new partners or various reasons high school we actually grew and it will so most of our students date in the district, and they either CIO cto hybrid or our online Program. 499 01:19:54.570 --> 01:20:02.820 School Board: Of the CEO hybrid that's over again that variability but cdo will go away and there will only be coming on. 500 01:20:03.930 --> 01:20:09.030 School Board: Unless they want to opt into the online program which would give that. 501 01:20:10.140 --> 01:20:13.560 School Board: very wide range of individual flexibility and you mentioned. 502 01:20:15.150 --> 01:20:35.940 School Board: We sent a survey to our families in the online program like stop and ask what their plans were for their CDs going into next year, we have about 1300 students in my class, we sent out 1300 and 72 survey, because they eliminate the senior they don't factor in. 503 01:20:38.010 --> 01:20:46.050 School Board: we've developed today to back 970 responses of that 800 students and come back. 504 01:20:47.400 --> 01:20:58.650 School Board: there's a few hundred that are unsure or default phone calls, but only 59 across the district indicated with certainty that they want to stay online. 505 01:21:00.300 --> 01:21:11.730 School Board: so well that can certainly change to your point what we're not hearing from these type of food is this mass migration of we're not interested in coming back. 506 01:21:13.740 --> 01:21:27.780 School Board: To the waiver form, I will get every answer that after the last eight weeks of the school year yeah, and again I don't know because survey parents and they would say for kids are going to come in the students. 507 01:21:28.860 --> 01:21:34.140 School Board: If not you can survey students and they'll say we're not coming parents might say yes, you are. 508 01:21:35.250 --> 01:21:55.140 School Board: and has all the startup community is we promised them if they chose to Harvard in the fall and not yama program that the family could stay CD out as long as they feel comfortable or live to hydrate and we give that means in there and change that extreme. 509 01:21:56.280 --> 01:22:00.390 School Board: I think could be problematic in our narrative our families. 510 01:22:01.890 --> 01:22:06.480 School Board: and students, you know other families are you know, using that choice. 511 01:22:08.040 --> 01:22:17.130 School Board: To you know support their comfort or interest and the state of Oregon and asked us to be fairly lenient with attendance this year is we never know. 512 01:22:17.850 --> 01:22:34.920 School Board: If it's a choice or if it happened to me or childcare or high school student something again or sibling so that we need to go go away and students will be accepted, to attend regularly in order to count. 513 01:22:36.510 --> 01:22:37.500 As participation. 514 01:22:40.530 --> 01:22:43.950 School Board: Dr Leonard hundred don't question was a little bit about the. 515 01:22:46.410 --> 01:23:05.700 School Board: hurdles now having no we don't have the same for those come next fall and I had they asked that same question and sounds like maybe a refresh your recollection in planning for next year, because you you've told her family's next year, we are planning on full time. 516 01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:15.000 School Board: l statements, five days a week, can you share with me like let's just say the circumstances don't change next year. 517 01:23:15.630 --> 01:23:34.020 School Board: How you arrange them, so you can accommodate and ensure that next fall when we say 75 days a week, all students have had a unifying a significant change control, but even if the guy doesn't change the lesson, between now. 518 01:23:35.220 --> 01:23:45.270 School Board: And y'all Thank you, I know I mentioned it, two weeks ago, and I think it's good for those watching at home and for security review what are the circumstances, now that. 519 01:23:46.980 --> 01:23:56.460 School Board: prompt us to stay in hybrid but we could make the change in the fall and a big part of that is just the timing of the year. 520 01:23:56.970 --> 01:24:09.720 School Board: And the promises we've made it a structured we've set this year, and that has some stability to the assurances to families schedules and classes, that would require now disruption. 521 01:24:11.220 --> 01:24:26.370 School Board: But when the school years overdue start with a clean slate so you have the benefit of a longer runway I think it cetera two weeks ago, we have a longer runway summer to hire additional staff, if you need to we do decide to do need to get that furniture. 522 01:24:27.390 --> 01:24:39.000 School Board: And we need to because nothing has changed from Oregon convocation Oregon health authority, we have to run away the border and have it delivered and assemble it and get it places. 523 01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:56.760 School Board: We also have the ability to be assigned to start new schedules and class sizes, whereas we make the class sizes that we get in August and want to keep those groups intact, there were there were districts. 524 01:24:57.930 --> 01:25:07.710 School Board: That into consideration, moving from CD out of hybrid and whatever was January, February their their own timeline did reassign. 525 01:25:08.580 --> 01:25:20.580 School Board: Primary students that he or she was two different teams and second families, here we are, you need to choose now hybrid or CEO and permanently placed in one of the other you can't change your mind. 526 01:25:21.930 --> 01:25:29.370 School Board: And some of those students who are CD out had to join their districts online program others got reassigned to new teachers. 527 01:25:29.910 --> 01:25:43.050 School Board: who became your CDs teacher and then students got reassigned to hybrid so some districts made it efficiency moving that way is how they could manage things are so criticism, it was just their context. 528 01:25:44.580 --> 01:25:55.440 School Board: Because we had told families that their students could stay and cbl i've written books could be intact for a year that we kept that model intact and to create science. 529 01:25:57.810 --> 01:26:13.980 School Board: When we have the summer and we have now the conditions that we would go into the fall, we can take a look at class size, we can make blends We also chose not to make any blends this year, which gave us great variability in class sizes, as things happen in these fluctuated. 530 01:26:15.480 --> 01:26:26.760 School Board: But we maintain that and then all of a sudden, make a blend classroom We also knew that teacher for working through a lot of change and to be teaching to grade levels and a primary additional challenge. 531 01:26:28.380 --> 01:26:35.400 School Board: But we can do that in the fall to them control for class sizes if we needed to and hire more teachers if we need to. 532 01:26:36.300 --> 01:26:44.400 School Board: So when you have a longer runway and you know the factors that frankly plan for when you're already in a situation and you're being asked to pivot. 533 01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:55.140 School Board: Multiple times during the year it's really hard to maintain stability, which we know is important for learning and they have to ask how much change. 534 01:26:56.670 --> 01:27:00.990 School Board: This the organization make during the year, what does it came to. 535 01:27:02.580 --> 01:27:06.600 School Board: Are we able to maintain safety as a conditions for the change. 536 01:27:08.970 --> 01:27:22.470 School Board: And then you consider that but it's always harder to make the pivot extreme than to start where we are so the biggest factor just timing and a shorter runway to make a this accommodations. 537 01:27:24.900 --> 01:27:27.030 School Board: Chelsea to have a couple questions and I. 538 01:27:29.310 --> 01:27:39.870 School Board: Thank you for all the decisions you have to make all year and for the recommendation, which I know a lot of thought consideration to get here. 539 01:27:42.150 --> 01:27:44.640 School Board: And I just. 540 01:27:45.750 --> 01:27:49.980 School Board: feel called to push back on it wherever I am. 541 01:27:52.500 --> 01:28:11.550 School Board: I believe in that statement that we shall get as many students in as soon as possible and also, you know as a CBC says itself like school should be the last to close first to reopen and that they are crucial to the well being of our young people and. 542 01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:22.860 School Board: You know just this last thing they said around how many pivots organization make I see that that would be super challenging and we're looking at short runway right now. 543 01:28:25.470 --> 01:28:33.780 School Board: So I began to get curious about you know, can we build a smaller plane to make it on that shorter runway. 544 01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:46.740 School Board: You know, use the metaphor of hurdles that we run the 100 meter and some of the 300 theater like in what ways can we get it manageable and so I think about things like, for example, you know nine. 545 01:28:48.090 --> 01:28:56.790 School Board: When I read the memo I see a lot of these issues, some of which I don't even fully understand, but I don't need to know understand all the details about. 546 01:28:57.060 --> 01:29:03.480 School Board: Why, we need to rearrange classrooms and stuff like that I just trust it would, but when I read that and I see that. 547 01:29:03.840 --> 01:29:13.770 School Board: It doesn't seem to be many barriers for nine through 12 there's a CBC recommendation of quarantining that I even become curious about like. 548 01:29:14.760 --> 01:29:25.440 School Board: This is, I really like all 90 students or is that just the people that are within you know the six feet, so I just want to know, like what can we do to be creative to make this happen. 549 01:29:25.830 --> 01:29:45.420 School Board: If it's just for our 12th graders that's when if it's just for nine to 12 that is a really great when I mean I would be willing to let K through eight go just to give that to you know the older kiddos the older students so tense, you know, can we move all those 10 star high schools. 550 01:29:46.650 --> 01:29:59.130 School Board: Can we sit on the circle and flora clipboards do they have to have tables, you know what can we do to make happen for her just our seniors bare minimum, but 1912 if possible. 551 01:30:01.140 --> 01:30:10.470 School Board: And I you know I know I putting that question for you is tough because you've given us a recommendation, this is your best thinking you know and psychic in some ways I look at the board. 552 01:30:11.070 --> 01:30:17.790 School Board: and asked like you know I asked you just because if the Board is going to push back in and make you know. 553 01:30:19.200 --> 01:30:21.300 School Board: make a recommendation that this be change. 554 01:30:22.500 --> 01:30:29.730 School Board: What is that and I want to know, like, how do we do that, in the most effective way, you know, particularly like that Li i'll stop talking. 555 01:30:30.300 --> 01:30:34.290 School Board: If I say this last name or when I look at the reasons to bring students on campus for. 556 01:30:34.620 --> 01:30:46.740 School Board: limited in percent instruction, I mean we could build an argument for so many of our students who need that the providers social emotional mental health support to build the educators, to be relationships to provide academic support the. 557 01:30:47.610 --> 01:30:52.920 School Board: vast majority of our students would fall under the Li guidelines as they exist right now. 558 01:30:55.020 --> 01:30:57.240 School Board: So I don't know where that. 559 01:30:58.590 --> 01:31:02.550 School Board: is right, oh yeah so you said it would agree with you said. 560 01:31:04.560 --> 01:31:06.240 School Board: start with when I spoke about this on Saturday. 561 01:31:07.260 --> 01:31:14.160 School Board: One of the key for Tennessee sharing weekend now with speech for that one thing he talked about was the possibility of. 562 01:31:14.670 --> 01:31:22.860 School Board: If we can't get every school with them, what about some of the school, so they don't have enough pair educators in the furniture, maybe we have enough for to school to school for three primary schools. 563 01:31:24.390 --> 01:31:32.040 School Board: And the possibility of maybe drawing into path, so there is no favoritism in some way to get some kids back in school, what I would like to see something that. 564 01:31:33.090 --> 01:31:40.290 School Board: You did why we can't do that or I can't do that it still seems very doable based on what I know and then with high school. 565 01:31:42.210 --> 01:31:57.930 School Board: I just think we're missing a really great opportunity, one for our kids but to the extent that mistakes get made with the levy what an amazing learning opportunity for fault already gone the weeks in the primary schools in the middle school high school just such a valuable information. 566 01:31:59.310 --> 01:32:07.260 School Board: I just I just think there's enough here I better same on every his long ago that that makes sense, we can get on back, I think we can get some back. 567 01:32:07.740 --> 01:32:13.770 School Board: And i'm just wondering kind of ECHO it tells you that if there's issues board to direct the district to. 568 01:32:14.760 --> 01:32:28.590 School Board: get as many kids back as possible, including all high school kids and determine how many this military schools can be opened up and how and what a fair way of determining which was the opening sequence don't think I think some kids going back this better than. 569 01:32:33.390 --> 01:32:38.640 School Board: I agree, some kids are better than Okay, now we can go back. 570 01:32:40.020 --> 01:32:41.700 School Board: I don't I don't. 571 01:32:42.900 --> 01:32:47.250 School Board: I know each and every one of us in this room would like all kids. 572 01:32:48.390 --> 01:32:50.790 School Board: All the time I mean, let me give me one day. 573 01:32:52.320 --> 01:33:04.590 School Board: And I think we all have our own resentments at our inability as a board to control the decision making around that and it was only given to us. 574 01:33:05.400 --> 01:33:15.780 School Board: Mid January, and then it was it was conditioned and so we've we've all been living with some frustration for a significant amount of time, I think. 575 01:33:16.350 --> 01:33:26.010 School Board: We as a group have done our best we can to get our skin we don't always agree, the rate at which we needed to get kids back and hybrid but we got them there collectively together. 576 01:33:27.270 --> 01:33:42.420 School Board: And I know we're all if if we can do this hands down in the support, I think, potentially, you know I like the questions the fish back I think it's vital conversation and. 577 01:33:44.310 --> 01:33:44.640 School Board: You know. 578 01:33:46.530 --> 01:33:47.400 School Board: As a board member. 579 01:33:48.750 --> 01:33:50.130 School Board: i'm weighing is. 580 01:33:53.220 --> 01:34:02.100 School Board: Again it's a little bit about quality versus quantity and her twin picking which kids get to go back, for you know, giving up to the sun, and not all. 581 01:34:03.540 --> 01:34:09.990 School Board: Other I also understand the value in sharing and I. 582 01:34:12.480 --> 01:34:18.000 School Board: yeah I just struggle, I mean i'm all for it, I just don't think any what we're hearing is it doesn't. 583 01:34:19.050 --> 01:34:26.040 School Board: Work that Dr le Drake has been doing and how hard she worked in PR team has worked to to find a problem. 584 01:34:28.650 --> 01:34:38.400 School Board: And I think i'm working with we're calling it don't like hearing that we can't make that happen, I trust that that is in fact the case. 585 01:34:40.080 --> 01:34:41.220 i'm not certain is that. 586 01:34:47.340 --> 01:34:52.680 School Board: i'm comfortable with the recommendation of the effort to the internet's been done. 587 01:34:53.850 --> 01:34:54.300 School Board: As. 588 01:34:56.880 --> 01:35:00.960 School Board: One who graduated during the pandemic and to current high school. 589 01:35:04.320 --> 01:35:20.190 School Board: My senses we've already moved like we're ready we're anticipating summer we're anticipating fall and the next X eight weeks don't seem so critical for change in my household and. 590 01:35:21.360 --> 01:35:31.470 School Board: And i'm trying to think back a studies like one of the reasons that foster children have have a really hard time and graduation rate is is because of. 591 01:35:31.920 --> 01:35:42.570 School Board: The repeated changes, and I know that this is a different kind of change, but already we've had some changes in the last school year. 592 01:35:43.020 --> 01:35:54.660 School Board: And and i'm not convinced that we, though, that another change to our patterns and activities are going to provide the kind of image that we want, on the other hand. 593 01:35:54.930 --> 01:36:03.390 School Board: I think the commitment made by Dr leveling is that, if there are students our families who need that every day she already committed to that. 594 01:36:03.810 --> 01:36:17.370 School Board: For those reasons, and those will be some people stepped up, I can just my experience and my family and i'm not hearing from that many other families a conference plan is that. 595 01:36:18.480 --> 01:36:28.770 School Board: That we're settled with that and we're ready to look forward to what can be next call and what will be the summer and so i'm i'm not. 596 01:36:30.450 --> 01:36:35.940 School Board: Convinced that that again asking our staff and our families to think. 597 01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:40.860 School Board: too short shorten the runway and make a different plane makes it makes sense to me and. 598 01:36:42.810 --> 01:36:44.010 School Board: that's where i'm at. 599 01:36:45.930 --> 01:36:47.970 School Board: And I also not sure that. 600 01:36:49.530 --> 01:37:06.360 School Board: If we were going to do that it's that we want to pour it into the seniors of the high school students only you can don't listen everybody's experience, but my senior was kind of glad you're here to just move on and start the next phase of life and and I just feel like. 601 01:37:07.950 --> 01:37:21.630 School Board: This is really eight weeks it's not much to make a significant difference for my family doesn't mean that it won't be for another family, but then we've already been given that option and they'll have that option to try to pursue that. 602 01:37:23.310 --> 01:37:31.350 School Board: And that has nothing to do with what we could do a primary school I just as a middle schools, I just don't think that we're going to be able to play a little. 603 01:37:33.360 --> 01:37:40.260 School Board: Not also considered that we could do a lot for one school but popped up work for plans for equity across the system. 604 01:37:42.840 --> 01:37:44.460 School Board: So I would say where i'm at is. 605 01:37:46.950 --> 01:37:56.250 School Board: Where there's a will there's a way that's always been my you know what the try is always worth it, especially when our kids are involved and. 606 01:37:58.410 --> 01:38:05.940 School Board: And I really just want to address to our seniors right now that was something on my heart that I have already actually written to say that. 607 01:38:07.260 --> 01:38:09.450 School Board: When I think of our seniors and I think. 608 01:38:11.280 --> 01:38:14.730 School Board: Just what they I think they have suffered particularly. 609 01:38:16.110 --> 01:38:28.950 School Board: You know they didn't get their junior prom and they have not been in their school and as a night class this year, and so, when I think gosh is there the opportunity to let the class of 2020. 610 01:38:30.570 --> 01:38:33.300 School Board: finish off the last eight weeks together. 611 01:38:34.320 --> 01:38:39.030 School Board: I want to be hopeful for that I want to try to get them that we possibly can. 612 01:38:39.750 --> 01:38:53.670 School Board: And one thing that God spoke to a question, he asked was you know we've heard in the Community that there's not a lot of kids showing up because some have taken jobs somehow kind of mcdonald's decided they actually like cbl rolling out of bed and. 613 01:38:54.990 --> 01:38:57.570 School Board: Then there's your costs right there. 614 01:38:59.280 --> 01:39:05.220 School Board: So I do have that wondering, even if we would would we have that room to maintain the six feet. 615 01:39:06.750 --> 01:39:17.280 School Board: Even if you know if we went ahead and said let's do it, and my thing is I I understand the equitable, I do have questions about the equity if we try to open one primary school here not another. 616 01:39:18.060 --> 01:39:27.150 School Board: And that's why i'm just pro Okay, what about what would just go for the high school because that's where we don't need the epic prepare educators life things more manageable. 617 01:39:28.200 --> 01:39:37.380 School Board: furniture may not be as big an issue and, like the senior class that has not been together in the building this year. 618 01:39:39.870 --> 01:39:54.750 School Board: And so I again it's just again, I think that I think it's worth a try, if we can, and not just like I so appreciate what the administrators have done, and everything like that, but I also. 619 01:39:55.440 --> 01:40:06.480 School Board: feel like I haven't done my job and advocating for our families and students and not if I didn't just say that's what is on my heart, then you know I when I read your recommendation. 620 01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:19.710 School Board: Last night, and I was completely understand, logistics and I see that makes sense there's still this heaviness to my heart as i'm sure it is all of us, I mean last night at a nightmare. 621 01:40:20.580 --> 01:40:32.250 School Board: But just about this because it's just heavy on my heart that and especially for the class of 2021, are we not going to get them together in schools and classes, or something else. 622 01:40:32.910 --> 01:40:42.360 School Board: We can try and you know I think to even when i'm not on the school board anymore i'm always going to look back on this year as i'm sure all of us are. 623 01:40:43.020 --> 01:40:59.700 School Board: and questioned myself did you advocate amount for your students and for those families, did I say, and I mean, I think we all are, and I know our ministry artichoke like we're all thinking that it would haunt me if I didn't step up in this meeting and say just asked one more time. 624 01:41:03.360 --> 01:41:08.430 School Board: So I, I would say there are ways to get there through the. 625 01:41:09.720 --> 01:41:23.100 School Board: way talk about seniors through the additional learning opportunities by inviting and seeing where can we maintain 60 and bring some seniors or go through a process. 626 01:41:24.180 --> 01:41:32.550 School Board: Around how we invite students to come back and feel that need to come back to be under this guidance. 627 01:41:33.780 --> 01:41:42.570 School Board: More connected to have that educator to student relationship and our administrators know those kids are counselors knows better than I do, and probably the religion. 628 01:41:43.200 --> 01:41:55.800 School Board: They know which kids are talking about that prevented, and we can do that tomorrow we because we have an animal you, we have the rsl we have the ability. 629 01:41:56.670 --> 01:42:10.530 School Board: To do that, and so, and we can still we still call it hybrid because some students would want to stay not coming every day, they want that ability to stay in hybrid so it's not forcing everybody, but it's working with. 630 01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:24.270 School Board: For seniors or others who ever you know, however, we work through it, to be able to do that, to also maintain succeed, so that we don't also risk that exposure from. 631 01:42:25.890 --> 01:42:29.550 School Board: Which is it wouldn't be all those 90 plus kids. 632 01:42:31.020 --> 01:42:33.510 School Board: So there are ways to work with that. 633 01:42:36.180 --> 01:42:40.410 School Board: And so i'm just trying to find a way to help you sleep at night, it helps me. 634 01:42:41.430 --> 01:42:45.390 School Board: Which is why I put that in there, if there are things that we can do. 635 01:42:47.970 --> 01:43:05.100 School Board: And after just a lot of thinking and I think you know i've expressed to each of you individually and collectively, that when we can get somewhere together as a whole, district students staff family, so we can get somewhere together. 636 01:43:06.540 --> 01:43:11.520 School Board: collaboratively as a whole, district and joyfully we get there. 637 01:43:12.750 --> 01:43:23.340 School Board: And we did that, sooner than others in co curricular Li and hybrid and that's been my commitment, since the staff. 638 01:43:24.780 --> 01:43:26.580 School Board: We are not at that same place. 639 01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:38.910 School Board: And that's why my recommendation is that we stay in hybrid and then use the tools of hybrid and ally to get students that need to be there every day. 640 01:43:40.920 --> 01:43:52.410 School Board: We also have moved into another tier so we could we should not be expanding at this time, broadly, but we can use Li these conditions and that selecting the patient. 641 01:43:52.950 --> 01:44:08.760 School Board: So we've been talking about the number of weeks, anyway, or that restricts us from making decisions of moving from hybrid to the next category is fully on site their CEO hybrid fully on site. 642 01:44:10.200 --> 01:44:20.550 School Board: Because we move now into that predictively might begin, but the numbers came out today, so now we know it's not the type of setup when I was hoping we get 200. 643 01:44:22.170 --> 01:44:32.760 School Board: So we should not be expanding to the next page PDF hybrid or on site, but it doesn't have to go back it's just making. 644 01:44:34.530 --> 01:44:40.230 School Board: But Li that criteria was always designed to bring students on to the benefit. 645 01:44:41.460 --> 01:44:43.050 School Board: Regardless where our. 646 01:44:44.070 --> 01:44:44.430 Next. 647 01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:47.880 School Board: i'd like to make emotion. 648 01:44:49.230 --> 01:44:57.660 School Board: and move it forward direct the district real good high schools, five days a week by May 31 second. 649 01:45:01.980 --> 01:45:07.320 School Board: i'm a two weeks from today i'm not sure what your emotion that's are you saying K 12. 650 01:45:09.030 --> 01:45:17.250 School Board: Schools Okay, can you restate video board throughout the district reopen our districts high school five days a week by 830. 651 01:45:19.590 --> 01:45:19.980 School Board: or nine. 652 01:45:32.550 --> 01:45:33.900 School Board: Because i'd like to discuss. 653 01:45:37.980 --> 01:45:38.460 School Board: Government secondary. 654 01:45:40.020 --> 01:45:40.590 School Board: discussion. 655 01:45:45.120 --> 01:45:45.540 School Board: So. 656 01:45:48.420 --> 01:45:55.590 School Board: i'm willing to support this because I do really believe we need to do everything we can to get as many students as possible. 657 01:45:56.730 --> 01:46:09.630 School Board: I like that it's not like picking and choosing some primary schools or something like that 1912 that's really high schools price I am hearing when I heard you talk about numbers of tents. 658 01:46:10.740 --> 01:46:13.830 School Board: That those would have an APP that can be utilized. 659 01:46:15.720 --> 01:46:23.430 School Board: i'm curious we be able to even keep the six feet to any degree with the number of students that were not coming in. 660 01:46:25.590 --> 01:46:31.260 School Board: The only catch that isn't it from like a fool enthusiasts that yes, is. 661 01:46:33.420 --> 01:46:37.500 School Board: My level priority with being seniors first. 662 01:46:39.030 --> 01:46:40.530 School Board: And I don't know if. 663 01:46:42.480 --> 01:46:52.980 School Board: it's a move like this risks that could jeopardize that at all, and so that's the one part, that I just i'm not sure if if there's a way that. 664 01:46:53.490 --> 01:47:10.500 School Board: And I fell short when I heard Li and possibly week those needs that some students that I didn't hear like that we could welcome back into classrooms every day, the whole senior class, so I think that's not necessarily the case with that Li MU. 665 01:47:11.640 --> 01:47:23.550 School Board: All i'm saying is I don't know because we have to see which seniors you start and you see call invites and with desired outcome, it opens invite another you know, and all of a sudden, you can kind of see. 666 01:47:24.090 --> 01:47:30.420 School Board: Like sharepoint aren't interested in, and then you can I just don't know what the interest of RC. 667 01:47:31.500 --> 01:47:40.740 School Board: I do want to remind the board that you know I don't know Actually, I should just ask for clarification of your motion is it to move. 668 01:47:41.640 --> 01:48:00.660 School Board: Slowly on site and inside that three four using 60 calling and trying to maintain for the onsite well it's fully five days a week, on site as safe as we can, so we can do 60 and has if we get the 62,000,003 people's personal. 669 01:48:02.430 --> 01:48:22.110 School Board: So currently our agreement with our employees is that we would say 60s, so that takes less you know, we would need to go into the negotiation process if we maintain succeed, which is why we can do the additional. 670 01:48:31.590 --> 01:48:37.560 School Board: Can I ask my question i'm sorry a drought and i'll be right back, but I wonder if we can put up on the screen. 671 01:48:38.640 --> 01:48:54.150 School Board: I pulled it up on my computer, but that ready school that chart that you refer to just so we all see it, and what it says about expanding where are we at what it allows the numbers that we are back i'm wondering if it's possible. 672 01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:08.670 School Board: Party on time. 673 01:49:22.590 --> 01:49:28.470 School Board: ternary No, sorry yeah we said i'm just waiting and we can keep going. 674 01:49:33.780 --> 01:49:34.860 School Board: see it asked for this. 675 01:49:42.090 --> 01:49:52.290 School Board: So don't just share with me they don't know if we would I don't know where the case rates are going to go was for winemaker on. 676 01:49:53.340 --> 01:49:57.240 School Board: paper in this part of as part of this proposal. 677 01:50:00.060 --> 01:50:01.590 may not be the case. 678 01:50:04.320 --> 01:50:07.500 School Board: So, where I was reading from Western see the world without the words. 679 01:50:09.480 --> 01:50:23.040 School Board: What Calvin trends increase to a new tier on this on this chart reading yellow yellow red claws and expansion of additional person, where I think curtis and maintain access to current personally is recommended. 680 01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:36.630 School Board: When was that written me asking for the fully on site and different tiger to call the onsite. 681 01:50:37.650 --> 01:50:39.870 School Board: or high school, this is a person is. 682 01:50:41.070 --> 01:50:43.320 School Board: pretty limited, you know scrapped it or something. 683 01:50:44.850 --> 01:50:47.100 School Board: Up date is April 2. 684 01:50:54.750 --> 01:50:59.940 School Board: And christy was there something about this, he wanted to come in yeah I just want one I wanted to make sure we're not. 685 01:51:01.680 --> 01:51:12.090 School Board: Selling still be in compliance with I don't want to you know focus, something that I am suggesting just to this cause, I need to check something around. 686 01:51:13.530 --> 01:51:15.750 School Board: Cooperation with this current. 687 01:51:19.410 --> 01:51:22.230 School Board: association associations right so just take a. 688 01:51:23.400 --> 01:51:24.000 School Board: Two minute break. 689 01:51:26.610 --> 01:51:26.910 School Board: All right. 690 01:51:34.710 --> 01:51:35.790 School Board: My life. 691 01:51:41.640 --> 01:51:42.660 School Board: Sorry, I should have waited. 692 01:51:47.580 --> 01:51:51.540 School Board: All right, looks like we're recording and back and. 693 01:51:52.770 --> 01:51:53.850 School Board: As we get him. 694 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:55.980 School Board: To work. 695 01:51:59.310 --> 01:52:18.180 School Board: But when I found for thanks for letting us do is in agreement with our two association, because our agreement is based on the CEO and hybrid models if we move any group or the organization to going on site long. 696 01:52:19.290 --> 01:52:28.350 School Board: Even with the six feet, we change the model we do need to bring forward and began working with our association on that process. 697 01:52:29.940 --> 01:52:32.730 School Board: Even if we're staying within the six feet, yes. 698 01:52:33.930 --> 01:52:36.030 School Board: that's what I need to look up with him. 699 01:52:37.650 --> 01:52:48.870 School Board: and stop here, why we're even bigger media to speak, why we have to go back to the 60 days one part of the agreement and the mo you, but we also talked about that this. 700 01:52:49.290 --> 01:53:04.920 School Board: Agreement is for the CDS and hybrid models, because we came into the onsite model, we would need to go back and have those conversations with the Association, so do we not having to know you for one side now. 701 01:53:06.510 --> 01:53:20.370 School Board: Remember, there was some districts that only wrote their employees for CEO and had to then negotiate even for hybrid and some of those just finished wrap that up even with the governor's announcement. 702 01:53:21.540 --> 01:53:31.830 School Board: We wrote our as always with CD on hyper together and then, as we got closer to hybrid we went back because there were some adjustments, we needed to make because some conditions have changed. 703 01:53:32.730 --> 01:53:39.600 School Board: But we always had cpl at hybrid somebody adjustments, we have made with things like giving this creates training. 704 01:53:41.340 --> 01:53:57.000 School Board: Making sure that keep our music the music still a synchronous so there were some things that we've learned since projects that we've adjusted but disagreement is not specified that fully on site. 705 01:53:58.110 --> 01:54:09.900 School Board: And, of course, only eating, this is the most complicated part of odd would do that update your operation with different to have fully on site and make sure that all of that language is updated but. 706 01:54:11.100 --> 01:54:13.830 School Board: What I wanted to check and verify. 707 01:54:15.270 --> 01:54:16.890 School Board: Is because the only reference. 708 01:54:18.210 --> 01:54:22.200 School Board: homepage by our schools either that hybrid for the CDF. 709 01:54:23.430 --> 01:54:25.950 School Board: there's no issue here on site. 710 01:54:27.000 --> 01:54:38.250 School Board: So sore obviously not violating mo you are going back to school, since it's not as common pain, five days you're sure you're sure we would need to do, then will you do for basically district line of business as usual. 711 01:54:39.570 --> 01:54:48.270 School Board: I mean in terms of five days a week, because this agreement is finding until the end of the school year it's expecting that we will be. 712 01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:51.270 School Board: In CDs or hybrid. 713 01:54:54.420 --> 01:55:15.780 School Board: chance details to the old or even if not, because it was David plan cl and in person, regardless So those are the standard contract is in person on the time change working condition is when we are requiring teaching in CDs, and so I think that's like even if. 714 01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:20.790 School Board: This wasn't for the full year you can just revert back okay. 715 01:55:23.040 --> 01:55:27.030 School Board: So, so what we're hearing is that emotion, but we're hearing that. 716 01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:34.080 School Board: Our ability to execute even a commotion were approved. 717 01:55:35.700 --> 01:55:38.760 School Board: Is is this complication potentially. 718 01:55:39.810 --> 01:55:42.960 School Board: Like it was largely fault to teachers and associates. 719 01:55:44.490 --> 01:55:54.240 School Board: And, especially within the time like we, we have to then give a formal demands bargain, the association folk associations would. 720 01:55:55.470 --> 01:56:09.480 School Board: Begin for meetings that natalie it all again very, very hydrated and then draft new language in the mo you describing for the onsite and those working conditions for. 721 01:56:11.190 --> 01:56:12.960 School Board: For specific staff. 722 01:56:14.670 --> 01:56:18.780 School Board: To look at the same things if we can be 16. 723 01:56:22.230 --> 01:56:37.800 School Board: million, yes, and can you describe the timeline of the negotiation like what is how much friendly do they have if we say we're interested in coming to the table like what so what that timeline might. 724 01:56:39.060 --> 01:56:39.660 School Board: look like. 725 01:56:40.710 --> 01:56:42.270 School Board: We because we have eight weeks last. 726 01:56:43.590 --> 01:56:55.500 School Board: season, a discussion that could be concluded before the end of the school right so that's My point is if if the time it says that we go to the table to negotiate, but they have X amount of weeks. 727 01:56:57.150 --> 01:57:06.720 School Board: To respond that's what again and I want to be really clear that I cannot approach the association about a demand to partner open this up, so what i'm describing is again. 728 01:57:07.080 --> 01:57:27.240 School Board: folks shouldn't be connecting the dots for listening, but when the district asks association and demand bargain is association says yes for other way around the association as a district, and we say yes, it starts with called a 90 day period in which we work through to resolution so. 729 01:57:28.620 --> 01:57:29.400 School Board: that's not. 730 01:57:30.630 --> 01:57:48.360 School Board: It may take 90 days it may take nine hours but that's just a technical aspect and again would be really clear that because I didn't feel we had the right conditions to approach our employees about a demand to bargain, I have not done. 731 01:57:49.440 --> 01:57:50.280 School Board: i've not quick. 732 01:57:51.390 --> 01:58:01.920 School Board: formal request in front of them so there's only speculation and i'm not going to weigh in on that, but you asked us what's the technical part and that's a marketing language. 733 01:58:03.060 --> 01:58:04.290 School Board: And that standing on stage. 734 01:58:07.380 --> 01:58:17.250 School Board: I know that there's some eagerness to go we've got parents visiting in town and birthdays and like it's such a complicated thing and we've been making trying to make this decision over and over again here. 735 01:58:17.790 --> 01:58:27.690 School Board: And I just want to say that I am going to support the motion and I appreciate that that is risky for. 736 01:58:29.250 --> 01:58:38.550 School Board: All the moves that have to be made, but I feel like it's a risk, I have to take on behalf of our young people, I read hundreds of emails. 737 01:58:39.450 --> 01:58:49.350 School Board: Describing an e tailing what our students are going through when they're not able to have access to this really fundamental thing that they need access to. 738 01:58:49.770 --> 01:59:01.080 School Board: i've lived it, I read about it, and I think it's worth the risk like we got to try to get nine let's go for nine to 12 and my hope is that. 739 01:59:01.500 --> 01:59:23.370 School Board: The whole organization rallying around this last pivot of this year we've together all move the hurdles and all get together and cooperate think we can do this if everybody just has the same goal in mind and puts the efforts toward it and I have to do it have to do it for for students. 740 01:59:26.940 --> 01:59:33.540 School Board: Right there's emotion i'm not hearing anything do we get into the discussion so we'll talk about. 741 01:59:37.380 --> 01:59:37.830 School Board: Kelly. 742 01:59:38.880 --> 01:59:39.510 Kelly Douglas: Miller time. 743 01:59:40.260 --> 01:59:40.740 Now. 744 01:59:41.850 --> 01:59:42.690 Kelly Douglas: Chelsea came. 745 01:59:44.700 --> 01:59:45.750 Kelly Douglas: Golan Heights. 746 01:59:47.280 --> 01:59:48.270 Kelly Douglas: ginger fetch. 747 01:59:49.890 --> 01:59:50.940 Kelly Douglas: Because the time said. 748 01:59:51.630 --> 01:59:51.960 I. 749 01:59:53.310 --> 01:59:55.110 Kelly Douglas: 3D to motion passes. 750 01:59:56.100 --> 02:00:12.570 School Board: You just want to say that you make a really clear to families that they are not required to go, because I was not the motion and I think that work has to get out there, otherwise you're really upset family to do not their kids to school. 751 02:00:13.890 --> 02:00:19.860 School Board: and welcome y'all wanted to go back five years yeah and I i'm not sure we can make the maker. 752 02:00:21.300 --> 02:00:32.160 School Board: timeline that we have suggested to them, where we are case race number information box fan and working with our associations. 753 02:00:33.240 --> 02:00:39.360 School Board: And I will oh man what why the timeline I don't I don't believe you can make it. 754 02:00:45.390 --> 02:00:48.840 School Board: interactive fidget for what it's worth I think also that that has been. 755 02:00:49.680 --> 02:00:57.090 School Board: that's always been an option for us it wasn't communicated here tonight with emotion and i'm just saying we need to be really clear about that because I. 756 02:00:57.870 --> 02:01:06.750 School Board: Was family sort of a sudden, they you're saying continue to messaging that they they retain that option that's a requirement of the theory. 757 02:01:08.160 --> 02:01:10.380 School Board: Just simply to continue as sure. 758 02:01:13.410 --> 02:01:15.780 School Board: All right, anything for that. 759 02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:22.230 School Board: question but. 760 02:01:25.620 --> 02:01:26.580 School Board: Happy birthday.