November-4-2019-Regular-Board-Meeting-Segment-4 [00:00:00] Okay, well reconvene and now that we all have the resolution before us, does anybody need any additional time to review? And when we're ready, we could use a motion. Sure. Did the board adopt resolution 2019 dash four as written. Oh, one second then moved and seconded. Any discussion? Alright, we'll call for a vote. Hi. I read another toy. Yes, ginger. Alright. Alright. Thank you so much for, thank you. [00:01:00] All right. Ms. Monroe here with a policy update. Hey, so as you know, we've been doing policy updates this year, and so tonight we bring before you policy AC non-discrimination. Um, this is, you know, we've been collaborating with OSBA and particular historic specifies that are helped us with these policy updates. And, uh, and as well as, um, each one who goes before our district council. So this is been vetted well-vetted I'd say, um. I would add that you would find the nondiscrimination autumn at every web page on our district website as well as, uh, at the end of every job description and posting that we do. Um, [00:02:00] so it's well, um, visible, but I'm happy to answer any questions you might have. Um, I just looked up the definition of patrons because that seems odd. Yes. To me. Any comment or story on that? Not that I'm aware of other than to say that we, um, took the recommendations from OSBA and have updated them accordingly. Okay. I would agree. I mean, there, there are some things that. I might not have changed or similar, but they are the guidance on these. Thank you. Is there a motion I will have to adopt? Uh, [00:03:00] the nondiscrimination policy a C. With the amendment every turning citizens and set of patrons. just a clarification. So you're not, you want to adopt all the changes here, other than the word patrons. Yes. Well with an amendment to return. Okay. Uh, patron is a person who gives financial or other support to a person organization cause our activity. That's one definition. There are others. This is true. Trust. The experts. Okay, [00:04:00] so is there a second? yeah, I just need like a moment of process. Um, okay. So OSBA recommended that we scratch the word citizens and we use the word patrons. Do we? And you asked why, and you said you're not sure why. I'm saying that we just use the guidance of OSBA, but you can certainly make your, I always want to know what OSBA is thinking is because they have a whole team of lawyers who say things to them, but I don't always agree with what OSBA says, so, so I'm just trying to understand what your thing was also vetted by our legal counsel, you said? Correct. Okay. We're not, we need a second before. Yeah, we can probably all second. Okay. All right. Yeah, [00:05:00] so I just think consistent with our board, goal number three, patrons seems more limiting to me, and I want to be consistent that we are not limiting in our language, in our, um, policy. CS is, that's it. I, if there's no justification for why patrons is more relevant there, then I'm more uncomfortable with citizens. I can think of one reason why it might be more limiting in a good way, which is that we want to hear from people in our district about their concerns, which patrons would be food people in our district, where citizens could be, you know, a mob of people from Sandy barnstorming, Westland, Wilsonville, to share their concerns. It's, um, okay, so you gave me the definition of patrons as being those who financially contribute to an institution to be accurate. [00:06:00] Mr And director Heights is correct, that there are two definitions that are immediately popping up. The first one is a person who gets financial or other support, two person organization, because our activity, the second definition is a customer, especially a regular one store or restaurant or a theater. And then, um, the same source for citizen. And then I would love to hear just a little bit of your thinking around. Why this is important to you if you're willing. I'm not saying it's important. This is funny that mr, that director hides of all people who's made plenty of other edits to our policies, thinks that we should go with what the experts say. A citizen, a legally recognized subject or a national of a state. Commonwealth, either native or naturalized and inhabit of a particular town or city. There you go. [00:07:00] It's not hugely important. Uses the word patron on a normal basis. Okay. I'm going to call this one for a vote. We'll just, I feel like this discussion isn't as fruitful at this point anymore. Well, let just, um, just one more minute, please. Before we take a vote. Um, I guess. What's coming up for me, I like the idea of citizen, um, because I think it demotes uh, democratic value versus a patron that demotes denotes a little bit more like the customer mindset. And my preference would be to keep a democratic mindset rather than a customer mindset. However, I do think that this notion of citizenship. Has, you know, gained, um, connotations over the years. And so if the legal staff thinks that [00:08:00] patron has a connotation that more accurately describes those to whom we're partnering with, then I'll trust that over citizen because perhaps it's just the definition, the connotations of the word are shifting. So, so we, we did not know that this would be a phrase that tonight, you know, if ahead of time, we know you're stuck on a certain word, we can do some deep dive. If you'd like to pause and postpone this, we can reach out to OSBA and find out more about this switch from the word citizen to patron. Okay. Shit, I don't want to burden the staff with that. That's my individual. Maybe the rest of the world would want to have you deal with that. I don't want to put that in your shoulders. I'm working on my equity lens and I would like to withdraw my motion. All [00:09:00] right. I now need a motion then. move that we adopt policy. Is the AC correct with the, uh, proposed amendments as written all second moved and seconded. Any further discussion? We'll call it for a vote please. Dylan hides. Hi, Kristi Thompson. I rag and Myla toy. Yes. Ginger. Fetch. Yes, Jesse King, aye. All right. As we get ready to close it, I bored. I appreciate the humor and as well as the sincerity behind these inquiries and the fact that we can work together with this stuff. So thank you all. And, uh, there is a list of our upcoming dates. Um, our next board meeting will be December 2nd, so we will see you all then, if not before. And can I ask a quick clarification. Yeah. [00:10:00] Our chair had asked that you'd be ready to report and do you want that done during report time, the three schools you visited and correct. You learned, okay. Yes. And there was the questions and we'll, we'll expand the board report time so each board member will have a little bit more time to share out on what they've learned. On their school visits and work plans. So my only question was just clarifying. I head down that at one point we had a work session on November 18th on equity. We're not correct because we had some, two out of five weren't available. Okay. Alright. Thank you. All right. We'll call it to close.