June-10-2019-Regular-Board-Meeting-segment-5 [00:00:00] Mr. House are you ready? Mr. House. I changed the order. Thank you for letting me speak again and William house. I reside at 3483 Cascade Terrace in West Linn. And again, I'm speaking on behalf of the West Linn lines for inclusive community. The alliance has reviewed the 2019 2020 budget albeit at a high level. It was on the website and we do have some comments to make. We appreciate the pressure that's being put on the school budget by The increased person man, and we recognize the reality that a budget reduction of three and a half million dollars will result in significant reductions in personnel [00:01:00] and professional development spending as stated in the superintendent's budget message the alliance. However, would urge you to look at the professional development spending that we do. And to focus it as much as possible on school safety and on equity in education, we think that they are priorities and spending. the superintendent's budget message also stated and I quote maintaining effective class sizes while strengthening counseling teacher librarian special education operations and Information Technology support boat is a key investment. That being said special education and counseling appear to be either neutrally or negatively affected in the budget when I look at it at a high level salary funding in the current budget for the support of students with disabilities is down 14.8 percent from last [00:02:00] year. I don't know all the details of that. But I'm just noting at the high level it does cause us some concern and we think with the closure of the Arts and Technology high school program in the migration to the new CT facilities that this does put that population of special Edge education Children at Risk. We would urge you to look at that closely. Wasc supports programs aimed at improving mental health counseling for students. These Services have been a key area of emphasis in school safety discussions after the Parkland shootings and the alliance believes that mental health counseling and packs the district goals on equity in education. The aspiration of hiring additional mental health counseling professionals seems to be at risk at a high level at least in this budget when we look at it the increases for social work services and Psychological Services. There are increases there but they're probably about [00:03:00] cost of living sorts of increases. We don't know fully what the plans are. But we do request that the district review this area of the budget. And provide some public information on the role that student Mental Health Services will play in our schools in the future. That's all my comments. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you. Thank you for your written comments as well just to clarify. Dr. Ludwig. My understanding was that we did discuss the reduction. Portion of the budget support of students with disabilities and that was related to our inclusion practices primarily because that is my recollection accurate. Did you say that again and what the question from? Mr. House? Was that the salary funding in the current budget for [00:04:00] support of students with disabilities was down. 14.8% and my recollection is we did discuss that during the budget committee and that had to do with the changes in our allocation of Staffing to other budget areas. Not a reduction in staff supporting students with the correct. I think it's always a caution in looking at one line item. In isolation because we allocate Staffing in a number of items in a way of doing that so it may go down in one area but increase in another area because we don't designating the budget who's being paid by name or title. We have that flexibility sometimes in one line item account we can. Increase Staffing and sometimes we can shift it to another so always when looking at a school district budget, there should be a caution around extrapolating one line and making [00:05:00] an assumption with that because we can pay for personal and Staffing to many different line items. Thank you. I also have Miss kuykendall, but I'm thinking she went ahead and left because of okay. They me to open that as a budget hearing officially. We thought you just added another public comment time. So I think we should leave it as that given how long we've been going and the patience of some people to speak. So we will have to designate an official budget hearing opening and closing. And see if there's anyone else who wishes to speak specifically about that you Miss Hughes. Good evening. I would do the budget amendments. And after that we were open for budget hearing. So on May 13 the budget committee got together Mac [00:06:00] and approve the budget for 1920 before were moved a pro Patria to a Doctrine. There's one topic that needs to be addressed and the see the 4.5 million Bond proceeds. So thank you Kelly for passing out Victor. So in front of you say to approve but chart for 1920 if you turn onto page one one five. The second path that I had a sticker for you. So page 1 1 5 under fun fourth 25 2014 Bond on the left hand side. You will see resource by 1 1 euro Bond proceeds and then about in a middle of 2019-20 proposed [00:07:00] and approved. We put down 4.5 million deficit a bond proceeds that. Have in the pre-authorization back in 2014. So recently we have a meeting with Investment Company Piper. Jaffray, we which is board chair fridge by chair height superintendent myself director Woodley and director school song we met on June 6. To determine does is it high for us to move forward just sailed it on proceeds. And the reason we would like to have this amendments is please turn to page one. One two three. So one one tree under 300 depth service fun. On the left hand side. You will see function 1111 current tax [00:08:00] year 23 million. That's 22. Do you see it on one one too, please. I want H 1 1 2. 23 Millions that's is the deaf services that we have to pay for our sending bond that we have currently. So with the additional of 4.5 million Bond proceeds if we go out and sell we need to have the additional of 1.8 million on top of this. So what the current approved burchard the texted to request for twenty four point 1 million to be levees and apply to our taxable properties. The reason to become 21 24.1 Millions is we need 23 million, but when I asked that that's a special the money we need I have to [00:09:00] factor in five mobile sense because in case at the year-end some people pay some people not to pay. So in the current budget we ask for 24.1, but with the additional of 4.5 million Bond proceeds the digit now need to Levy. Amount of 26 million for payment upon death to be imposed on all taxable property in the fiscal year 1920. Do you have any question? No, because before the papa the budget hearing this is one more opportunity for public to waste in and mud common before we move forward. So now we open for public hearing. [00:10:00] It appears that we have none. Yeah, no, but we received as comments. so bored, you have to rush hearing loss solution packets and point of view the resolution to Euro 18.1 to. It's now appropriate for you to make the motion to adopt a budget. So what we would do for process right now [00:11:00] is. If you don't have any questions about this item, which you can defer your discussion when we have the budget discussion, we wanted to put it in front of the public so that if if anyone is here and wants to comment on it during the budget hearing they have that information prior to comment period and don't lose that opportunity when it's the budget hearing so we did. We would assume that you are just having regular public comment when you invited the patron to speak. So now we should officially move into the budget hearing which is providing an opportunity for anyone in the public to speak on the approved budget document. That was approved by the budget committee. So where all of the information is now made public? Prior to a budget adoption. So we need to do an open and a closed for a budget hearing. We hereby [00:12:00] open the budget hearing and we incorporate mr. Houses comments on behalf of the West Linn Alliance for inclusive community that he provided in writing to the board and then reiterated into this portion of the hearing and is there any further comments on the. Budget that was proposed and approved by the larger committee. recommended for approval. Okay, we now close that. I they're looking for a motion on the resolutions that Miss. The resolution number 20 18-12 will [00:13:00] facilitate a smooth. So why were you looking for us? I can move to the financial information report and then we can make the motion after that. So the financial information report I have is very much a status aim at the major report that the estimate and in front bar. And for the end of this fiscal year will be around a Millions. That's a Millions also included 2.9 Million from the faux boundary the Pearl Reserve. One items that we would like to bring to boil attention is we have a total of four point 1 million in Pearl [00:14:00] Reserve last year the auditor move 2.9 Million from special Revenue into General fun and left 1.1 million per reserve and deaf Services Under ual, so we would like. Do the business office determined that is best for the district to hold on this Reserve in the general fun. So we would like to move the 1.1 million in from the unfunded liability under 300 Debt Service fund into the general fund. So that's it the report. I have financial report and resolution number 2 Euro 18 - 13 will facilitate this move. [00:15:00] Okay, thank you. I think I think I understand now I had to listen to all those things probably several times think I read them and then listen to them. So thank you. I feel confident to move approval of resolution - 20 18-13 authorizing the transfer of Appropriations. I will second discussion. Now this is a moment for some of that Grace that we were talking about as we have a lot of moving parts. So we're just going to okay, hold on. Okay, so I think what we have done is we kind of skipped ahead in our motion, but [00:16:00] we have yet to move to adopt the budget. Yeah, and so I think she was hoping that we would move to adopt the budget have that discussion first, and then I will present one more Appropriations friend first and then you will make two motion. Instead of first motion you'll be you'll be dead not approve my appropriation transfer and then the last motion will be approved my budget adoption these two items have to do with the current budget 1819. Not not the budget adoption that you're going to do in 1924 1925 this have to do with our financial statement wrapping up in June. Moving some contingency funds and also moving that pers Reserve that 1.1. That's that's in a special fund also into our general budget and our ending fund balance in 1819. We'd like to do that and wrap that up in [00:17:00] June with our current budget so that we have that available to us. I'm going into next year. So we'd like to do that. It's just giving you some more context as you think about the budget adoption for 1920. How are we ending in June as you're thinking about adopting for the next year? So these two moves have nothing to do with the 1920 budget is part of 1819. With one just one exception make sure but our disgust are. Small discussion we had about the bond sale that is for hiking the 1920 budget. Yes versus these Appropriations are for our present budget. All right. Yes threatened. We wanted to do that prior to the budget hearing so that anyone who had come to speak about. The budget that's being adopted would have all the information that you are considering as you adopt the budget and that was one item that is [00:18:00] new for tonight. We wanted to put that out in front of the budget hearing. You will notice the change when you go to adopt the 1920 budget and that resolution is there in that dollar that taxation dollar amount is written. It will look different than the one that was signed. With by the budget committee, it will be an increased amount when we get to that part will show you. Okay. So now for this current year after the financial report that to a estimate to have about a million carry forwards from this year to next year and we would like to move the 1.1 million from Death service into general fund. This current year. We also very typically that CFO move money around at the end of the year to avoid budget violation, like our district operate under for function. [00:19:00] The first function 1000 is induction. Mm. Mm function purpose and support services to 8,000 represent death service and 4,000 represent Capital conduction. So this transfer is is not increase in spending at all. The bar chart when we set up a chat last year in March and we got adopted in June. That's it. Just the best guesstimate that how we see the digits spending money. But throughout a year something Tenten program changing more student. So the expenditure ship a little bit. So in order to avoid budget violation around May of the CFO around school district. Reviewing our function and see how it works and spending if we have stress [00:20:00] of more and then we make the appropriation budget fun Jennifer to ensure that. if you recall in our last audit, we had actually missed this move prior to the end of June and it was cited in our audit that we had a place where we should have moved some from our contingency. We knew about it, but we hadn't done it by June 30th and that was cited in our audit. So this will avoid that from happening again is just Shoring up where we short in certain places. And how did then use that contingency fund to make sure we are violating any of those areas where we were short and those are all contained in the 2018 12 resolution. tucked in. Resolution number two year old 188813 versa. [00:21:00] All right. That's what I'm looking at. What you're asking for Miss Hughes is a motion to pass resolution 28. Okay that right. Yes. Chelsea King Martin Eddie Reynolds. I enjoy fetch. Hi. Dylan hides abstain regulatory. Yes. So now we back to our adoption budget. So in the front page of the approved budget that [00:22:00] Kelly handed out you will see on the right hand sides either it a signature of the chair from May 13. This one right here is a proof or May 13 by Jeff Holland and then on the left is a manman butchered that I have that's includes 1.8 million. The the LIE item that gentlemen is that surface fun moving from twenty nine point four million 230 1.2 million. So that printout hold on but chat from one seventy seven point four million to now become one seventy nine point two million. So this is reflecting that additional tax because we're selling we're going with sewing the 4.5 [00:23:00] million in the bonds increases. this this ask. And just for purposes of public meeting compute reiterate why we're making the decision to sell those bonds. Yes, so so what? So we had already been authorized to sell them and we were just it was just a timing. Most of all most all of the projects are almost all done. But we do have those last few remaining and we do need that 4.5 million. We considered different timing. Do we sell it now? Do we need it right now or do we wait? Is it something we would roll into the 206 million which is also an option and sell 210. Million dollars in bond if that Capital Bond, you know, if we go for the capital Bond it passes [00:24:00] do we wait we do need the money now that we can do some projects this summer and mr. Woodley can speak to that and then upon counsel from Piper. Jaffray They also encouraged that we sell them now and not link them into the potential 206 million but to do it as separate items and that they can factor that in too. The capital Bond capacity very easily. So now is the right timing. We need it for the projects to finish up and it doesn't we were worried about its impact on the potential 206 million and their response to us as it does. Not negatively impact that. so the ad just briefly to that from. project management perspective. we have queued up projects that require. Not all of the money but a good portion of it right now that I can't back off on. There's [00:25:00] some technology that the district really needs the kurz Hitler and Grant that he's been holding on but the timing is that if we don't move forward with it, it could impact education in the in the in the fall. It's money. That was pre-authorized by prior board. And election that supported it I can't speak necessarily exactly why it wasn't sold at the time that the majority of it was sold Ford had some conversations in their options. I think at the time of sale we do need it. Now. We don't necessarily need all of it, but for us to finish programming out and delivering projects, We need to have confidence that the cash is there to finish the 14 Bond through the next year at least and then working with Piper. Jaffray [00:26:00] that it wasn't necessarily complication, but it was something that needed to be considered. Along with the possibility of a larger Bond at the same time so that they could maximize the tax collections in a way that honors the $3 per thousand. And if we don't do it, we'll probably run short by mid-august. So it's been recommended that we do it now. The appropriation was already on the. The income side of the of the budget you'll see that four and a half million there as income, but it was the timing around selling it and then the tax collection that needs. To happen part a part of it about 1.8 million needs to be collected in the in the fall of this year because of Gap we have between what the rate is and what and the three dollars [00:27:00] and it's just an opportunity now to do it. So the board is considering it as that Amendment to the budget on The Debt Service side. I would move that the board adopt the 2019 2020 financial budget for the West Linn Wilsonville School District as presented in resolution 20 18-12. In the overall amount of 179 million two hundred forty six thousand three hundred seventy two dollars. Okay. [00:28:00] a second. Goshen. No, I had asked a number of questions of after getting the board book. I asked a number of questions last Friday. And they didn't get responses. So I'm just going to comment on them. Now my Hope was that. We would base our budget on current information are you know are approved budget is really based on a proposed budget was based on Revenue information from last November and I think that we we know for certain that we have more [00:29:00] Revenue than is indicated in the budget. For example. See we received in May from the Oregon Department of Education are approved State funding level and the difference appears to be millions of dollars. And also we've kind of alluded to some of the grant requirements but in an executive Memo from coal kill the director of the Department of Education. Regarding High School Success funding. He said be sure that your that your adopted budget includes the appropriate spending Authority for the plan. You ultimately will submit to Department of Ed. So we know that there's more house built 30 3427 money available, but we're not we're not adding that as nearly as I can tell. We also received from the Department of Education and May. [00:30:00] An adjustment for the 2017 18 year and that's almost 600,000 I believe and then a high-cost disability Grant of nearly 200,000 and then again, we've been talking the Oregon school Capital Improvement matching program and we're eligible 477 million dollars. And then I just generally the pers bill. Senate Bill 20 or Senate. purrs Reform Bill on 1049 in will reduce the employer rates by five point four percentage points. It will change a cap on the number of hours that pers retirees. Can work and it might prompt tier one and put in my opinion. I think it's going to prompt could prompt some tier one employee's to [00:31:00] consider retirement. So I think that we could do an analysis on the potential impact of Senate Bill 1049. So they're just a number of things. I think we could do to update the budget. So we're not having to pass a Cuts budget. So I know I'm in the minority. I will be in the minority, but I just think that there is additional Revenue that's not accounted for in The Proposal we have before us. So I'd like to comment on a number of those observations House Bill 3427 the two billion dollars that you're mentioning again. You saw the report on the Student Success Act and the timeline we will not see any of that funding until the second year of the biennium SO waiting longer in June. We need this budget adopted by the end of this month. That would not factor in in terms of the pers [00:32:00] bill that's being referenced again, there is a lot in that that needs to still be processed through the pers board as well as with. Fers, employees and likely we will not see that relief until the following biennium. So again waiting until the end of June I don't think for this board is going to get you any different information. The pers bill that was passed were that's down the road in the future in terms of any relief from that and again House Bill 3427. We won't see any that funding until the second year of the biennium. What we do know is that we that the state school fund did increase from 8.8 729 billion and we did get an increase in that. That was shared with the budget [00:33:00] committee at the time of the meeting that had just been passed. It was new information. It does provide an additional 1.2 million. You do have within the budget proposal a paragraph on page 5 about Amendment budget plan that if additional resources came in that there would be a restoration and it would be applied towards in first order. Classified and certified FTE and so on and that is the plan. I do recall that the budget committee did approve the budget even with the known entity of the nine billion being now offered in the state school fund. So if you as a board are going to. Reopen a budget committee's approval. I think you would need to look at operating agreements and what it means to undo an approval by a budget committee to then change an [00:34:00] approval of that. That we base the budget on eight point eight seven we can because of the known fact of now getting nine billion. We can we and we will reflect that in budget documents going forward that happens all the time every month. As the state presents us with new information about revenue or expenditures and we keep truing up accounts every month when it was financial statements are given to you the budget rarely looks the same in May of the end of the year than it did the maybe for when it was adopted because of adjustments in revenue and expenditures each month. Dr. Renault miss a very good comment on the additional adjustment from Oregon Department of better education on 590,000. So add to recall when we did the budget for this current year 1819 the estimate and in pain [00:35:00] balm for this year is 4.8 million. So with this additional adjustment that ring our ending fund balance phone estimate of 4.08 into light 5.1 in and then after the 2-point diapered and become a a million, so we do recognize as in this ending fund balance. Based on the motion and the approval that you made to the 1819 budget with that pers reserve of 1.1 million that does impact our ending fund balance. So we have an additional one point one that we can spend to reduce. And there's dr. Reynolds mentioned going into a Cuts budget my message it talked about a 3.5 million dollar reduction. So we now have that pers amount that you've moved into our [00:36:00] general fund. That you just did for the 1890 that's available to us now. We also have from the state with the nine billion dollars that gives us an additional 1.2 million of that. We do need to be mindful a portion of that goes towards an adjustment to our Now new contract with our classified staff of. And I do want to go back to have misspoken earlier. It is 350,000. So we have to think about that amount but that leaves about 900,000 so the 1.1 and the 900,000 gives us about 2 million dollars now instead of a 3.5 million dollar reduction. We only have a 1.5 million dollar reduction potentially going into next year our commitment with our amended budget plan was if we had additional. Funds available to us. We would apply them towards [00:37:00] the Staffing plan that was made we can at this point with those funds completely reduce the need to reduce the classified Staffing and the reduction to certified Staffing. I think I had about 18 ft e we can reduce that by half. So that does significantly improve the Outlook going into the 1920 budget with those two increases now. so we would. that's good news. I appreciate the idea of not budgeting for the money. So we anticipate coming. And it of course it would be really nice to budget according to monies that we anticipate coming and I know that probably isn't fiscally wise. My question is around when we know we have this additional [00:38:00] funds and that that is going to reduce the number of cuts that were planning for. and we edit this to reflect that so that we're approving a budget that reflects that. Half the number of cuts this document was approved by your budget by the budget committee. As face on to Oregon budget law when the budget committee approved the budget than the war to adopt that approved budget. But we can message that I mean if this is adopted tonight. And we know that there's an amended budget plan that does speak to that that if more funds are made available. This would be the plan. So there is a it does speak to that plan. Then after tonight. There could be a superintendent message that goes out that says the school board has adopted the 1920 [00:39:00] budget. With my with in mind that the state did increase the state school fund to nine billion giving additional money to be applied towards the revenue which reduces the need for mitigates the need for 3.5 million dollar reduction so we can get a message out to the community that we've adopted this but also that there is good news. Our reductions aren't as heavy as we thought they were going to be and in with an explanation of why that is. And and then in July and August, you would see the updated financial statements. So for clarity, I think I heard you say that we anticipate the cuts and licensed staff to be reduced by half. So that would change to a plan to reduce licensed staff by 9ft. Actually be 10 because there's 18 teachers and we had to non-classroom [00:40:00] licensed staff. So it was about it was a total of 20 so out 10 and there would be zero Cuts in the classified position. Correct. Okay. The only thing is hanging me up. That sounds fine to me. I'd say it's a curious loophole because often in the budget committee meetings were told, you know, the board still needs to approve this and so now at the board level I'm being told. Well, we can't change anything because the budget committee approved it and so it's just an interesting thing for me to notice as part of the process well because there was an amendment plan in there. And there was a discussion about that Amendment plan. If you recall there was some discussion should we make some bullet points should we add more specific language and the discussion was this does speak to the priorities and if we do get more funds we'd like it to happen this way, which is what is likely going to play out. In the [00:41:00] context of my question was we were told on Friday that the budget committee would meet would need to meet to approve the four and a half million dollar additional sale that and then we found out today. No, they don't need to meet after all but that was the context of my questions as long as the budget committee is meeting again. Can't we also add back the known Revenue increases and at the least we have Oregon Department of Education increases in May of the the I think 500 almost 600,000 for the 2018 year that adjustment we have a. Hi Costas, about disability Grant of nearly 200,000 and and apparently about 1.2 million of additional funding from 3427 and potentially others. So I would just be more comfortable if we passed a budget that was [00:42:00] accurate. I think that's consistent with what our responsibilities are and we just amended it. I think we can do it outside of the budget committee process. I think consistent with gfo with Gatsby and G F OE standards you want an accurate budget so you don't have to go back and true it up all the time. You know if we can have something that's closer to what are no grabbing. These are that that's what I'd be more comfortable with. So just just to clarify we did not need the budget committee to meet to authorize. The sale of the 4.5 million dollar bonds that had already been authorized what came up went in discussion on Thursday in consultation with Piper. Jaffray was a question by Carol Samuels asking us to look into now that we were going to sell the 4.5 million and they told us this was the right timing. It would adjust the number that you just saw [00:43:00] on the resolution. Her Wonder was does the budget committee need to reconvene for the whole committee to approve that new number? There was also wondering does does the board have the authority to do that on a night like tonight and not need the full budget committee. She recommended to us that we seek out from financial consultants and experts beyond what she could advise to look into that. Because of the lateness of the hour, we took a conservative path that in case we did here over the weekend that we needed to convene the budget committee. We wanted to prepare them to be ready to come tonight and prepare all of you for that possibility. We were still waiting for that determination what we learned and sent to you from both Angie Peterman the executive director of a wasp. Oh, And also from Danette Benjamin of Finance [00:44:00] Taxation and exemptions analyst with the Oregon Department of Revenue is that we did not need to reconvene the whole budget committee to change that amount in the debt services and that it was actually more appropriate for the board to do that tonight to reconvene the budget committee would mean to repost and since and to notify and that actually the budget had already been. Approved by the committee. And this was something that could be approved just by the board. So we took that advice which is what Carol Samuels had asked us to do. She was unsure and said seek out the advice and then follow what you here, which is what we have done tonight. So I'm reticent to go against what's now being recommended by oh, asbo. And then that Benjamin and do something different in terms of. [00:45:00] adjusting any more than what they have suggested or recommended that we do. Yeah, and it's in our total invite you as a 179 million the additional one for a Millions is only 1% So according to the Oregon Department of Revenue, there are viruses boss is allowed to make chain to the pocket prior to adoption. According to Oregon status to knife for Dart four five six and because changing to fun 300 will be less. Panned by saying up the total expenditure. The ball is within the authority to ask this one point eight million to the death surfaces prior to adopting it. It's my opinion that the discussion of. Adjusting the budget [00:46:00] to reflect the decisions already made by the legislature that we anticipated being made by the legislature was fully discussed at the budget committee and the majority voted to pass the budget as provided originally by the superintendent and I'm prepared today with the change for the. That's reflected in. Getting the additional Bond monies that we would prove the budget tonight. One more question. So the 7 million in awesome funding and the directed by Cole Gil to include a budget Authority for the high school Success grants. Is that reflected in the budget? So we have [00:47:00] not applied for the awesome Grant yet as we heard from. Mr. Woodley tonight the application process begins July first, we'll get it submitted by July 15th. We won't know until the end of July weather. We get the grant at all or how much the amount is what we are eligible for. Is this the approximately 7 million? So that's eligibility whether we are granted that amount. We don't know so we won't know that information before the end of June which is when you need to adopt this budget. I'm comfortable voting to approve this budget. I do still have a question or two about the cuts and obviously my preference like many people's preferences to have, you know to not have a cuts to not approve a Cuts budget when we anticipate not actually making the cuts, hopefully so. I'm curious about this to non-classroom [00:48:00] staff positions that was proposed as a cut. Is that do we anticipate still needing to make Cuts Like That? So I'm reticent to get too specific to really speak about specific positions tonight because what we've tried to do through this process is really wait. And then see which are the least impactful positions in terms of priorities that we've established in our proposed budget like class size certain classroom. Ranges and to see where we can make those reductions or not hiring back, maybe some retirement or resignation in a way that has the least impact as possible. So making any kind of an indication tonight about which position here. They're May tie us to a decision that we wouldn't want to be tied to come August. [00:49:00] We will not I can tell you this we will not be restoring back the administrative position that is there and we will not. But still in those reductions is the professional development suspension so we can now take a look at what's remaining in that 1.5 the administrative position the professional development reductions. And if there are any other changes to our ending fund balance in 1819 that put us in the positive. All of that works towards us having a better Outlook into 1921 1922 2019 2020. Our commitment has always been. He did to keep staff intact. That's what's in the amended budget and we will continue to work with that amended budget plan. I mean I have confidence in this and the paragraph around where the moves will be made and that gives up, you know gives me assurance and I you know, I trust that and you know, my concern is just like the email we got today about, you [00:50:00] know, this position is going to be cut and please don't cut that position and that type of concern coming up in the community as we approve a budget that is. You know sure and that's understandable. I think we still have a long time between now and August. So I would caution anyone saying that a position has been eliminated. I'm not sure which one you're referring to but. You know, there's there's still a long time between now and school opening in August. I also view a scenario with six scenario fate because when we do the budget, we cannot just look at one year 1920, but we need to look at. The biennium so what happened in 1920 will affect 2021. So with that scenario in July ball between I will present it to you and I think that will help you make the decision easier based on [00:51:00] what to say and what to cut because it what we do in 1920 will affect our 2021. I will add to that. We also know that in in 2021, we're getting some additional Revenue the house will 3427 that grant that were applying our allotment for that will be about 7 million will come to the district at 7 million per year. So we do know that's not helping in this first year and this is when we need some some Revenue to get us through so we don't have such a deep cuts. The second year of the biennium we will have that additional funding. Also if the capital bond is put before voters in November and that gets approved that does help us in terms of some support just because of often their Staffing involved in the capital bond that can relieve the general budget in the areas that it's allowed. [00:52:00] So our Revenue sources coming for us specifically as well as from this state every District in the second year and that's not unlike the landscape that's happening for every school district right now is passing a very tight budget first year of this biennium and they're looking forward to more Revenue coming the second year. Your we are way over our time. I like to go ahead and. Go ahead. Dr. Reynolds. I think we need to move forward. So the. mission was a cutback in FTE at Western High School. That's the email we received and I know that it was focused on Equity. I know you don't want to talk about specific positions. I also had asked about the phasing out of Arts and Technology by one. Full grade per year for the next three years and and I just want to make [00:53:00] a statement that my hope is that with the restoration of House Bill 3427 and mental health services and other services that we assure that that staff is kept intact and that the students at Arts and Technology who need Social Services that set that would otherwise be attending Arts and Technology that they have those services. I didn't know if that was a question or a comment. I do believe I sent to the board several Communications about our work with the Arts and Technology High School staff and that transition plan board members were invited to come to the. Them to the meeting that we were having for parents, which was an open conversation about that transition plan. There were assurances to all of the staff prior to that meeting that their positions are intact. There are employees of the district where they serve their positions. They just we need to have [00:54:00] some flexibility. And they know that and and they're agreeable and excited. They might teach a couple classes at Art Tech and maybe a class at Wilsonville high score West Linn as were in that transition, but their positions are intact and I can make that Assurance as far as I could make any insurance to any employee of the school district that their position is intact. So I think we have to be really careful when we. Make a promise to one group over a larger group of employees. I think we have to be cautious about that kind of a statement in public. But in terms of our transition plan, it does not show any reductions to the current staff. It may have some reassignments during those transition years. And the staff is excited about that. They also can become key members of the design team as we move into the reimagining of the new high school and they're excited about that process as well. We had about four meetings with the staff also the meeting before the open meeting with the parents and then a [00:55:00] debrief afterwards. So again, I'm always available to any board member who wishes to ask more questions about this any time outside of a board meeting. Let's vote. Kelsey King Martin I Betty Reynolds No Ginger fetch, huh? Dylan hides abstain Reagan Bellator. Yes.